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December 9, 2002
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I chose to put this under, “What’s New”, vs anywhere else, because RIA, actually accredited the WACA, with the serial number timeline, vs. the Madis out of date information, in their description. This is not meant to be a knock on George in any way, but just an information update as time allows us.
In RIA’s defense, I give them credit for bringing this to light.
Another way to look at this is to not even try to educate the past Madis quotes, and just list it as a year 1900 manufactured SRC!
Again, at least RIA, is listening to the many calls, from the members here, with the many hours of up dated information, from the timeless surveys and dedicated searches that are constantly being done.
Tony
April 15, 2005
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Tony,
I have observed a decent number of RIA’s listing in the past year or so with the “Winchester Collectors Association indicates” statement, and I applaud them for doing so. They also usually show a copy of the factory letter which is also greatly appreciated.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
December 9, 2002
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Bert H. said
Tony,
I have observed a decent number of RIA’s listing in the past year or so with the “Winchester Collectors Association indicates” statement, and I applaud them for doing so. They also usually show a copy of the factory letter which is also greatly appreciated.
Bert
Bert,
Once again I’m in agreement with you, and remember you saying this. I feel we’re the Era that’s kinda in a transitional information period, and it’s almost our duty, to do much of what members like yourself has been doing, and educating the masses. Showing the factory letters, for verified information is important.
Tony
November 19, 2006
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I had observed RIA’s boiler plate statement in several of their post M1898 pieces. I have a bit of a different take. I am still dumbfounded that they classify the guns as meeting, “antique status” (and presumably will ship them out directly as such), when they provide the clear evidence that the guns are not antique (the museum letter specifying they were made post 1898 and the WACA data). It’s like they are saying the Madis numbers are the final authority – the heck with actual reality.
Let me ask this – how comfortable would others here be (who don’t a regular FFL or a C&R), having one of these non-antiques shipped directly to your home?
June 1, 2023
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Several years ago I purchased a Winchester 1894 takedown rifle that was considered an “antique” according to the Madis info, but in reality was made in 1900 (as confirmed by the info on this site.) The seller, who was an FFL, was willing to ship it directly to me, and thought I was “just plain nuts” to insist it be shipped to my local FFL. I would not knowingly give the BATF a reason to come knocking on my door. So if I were the buyer on that RIA auction, I would again insist that the rifle go to my local FFL, in accordance with federal law.
BRP
December 9, 2002
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steve004 said
I had observed RIA’s boiler plate statement in several of their post M1898 pieces. I have a bit of a different take. I am still dumbfounded that they classify the guns as meeting, “antique status” (and presumably will ship them out directly as such), when they provide the clear evidence that the guns are not antique (the museum letter specifying they were made post 1898 and the WACA data). It’s like they are saying the Madis numbers are the final authority – the heck with actual reality.
Let me ask this – how comfortable would others here be (who don’t a regular FFL or a C&R), having one of these non-antiques shipped directly to your home?
Blue Ridge Parson said
Several years ago I purchased a Winchester 1894 takedown rifle that was considered an “antique” according to the Madis info, but in reality was made in 1900 (as confirmed by the info on this site.) The seller, who was an FFL, was willing to ship it directly to me, and thought I was “just plain nuts” to insist it be shipped to my local FFL. I would not knowingly give the BATF a reason to come knocking on my door. So if I were the buyer on that RIA auction, I would again insist that the rifle go to my local FFL, in accordance with federal law.
BRP
Here we are. This is exactly why I posted this and chose to take a neutral stance on. Some very good points of view ! IMO!
Tony
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