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Original Winchester Catalog No. 53 from November 1894
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I took some additional photos along with some of the other models offered in the catalog and the 1894 is the only one with the odd Marlin-like checkering pattern.  All others show the typical “H” checkering pattern.

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The 1895, 1896, & 1898 all show that style of checkering too. The 1902 shows the normal H, although crude looking in the photo. I don’t have a catalog in between ’98 and ’02 to narrow it down any further. Never noticed it before …….. very strange. 

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That’s interesting Gary.  I’m assuming the 1894 is the only model with the odd checkering in those catalogs as well?  Strange indeed.

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The 1895, 1896, & 1898 all show that style of checkering too. The 1902 shows the normal H, although crude looking in the photo. I don’t have a catalog in between ’98 and ’02 to narrow it down any further. Never noticed it before …….. very strange.   

 April 1900 Catalog (No. 65) is still showing the odd checkering.  I have see a lot if early production Model 1894 Fancy Sporting Rifles, and none of them have that type of checkering on the butt stock… they all have standard H-pattern.

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Thanks Don for sharing, I’m crazy about this old stuff. 

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Awesome! NOW I understand why some of you collect catalogs!

 

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TXGunNut said
Awesome! NOW I understand why some of you collect catalogs!

 

Mike  

Ebay has made it EASY…if you’ve got the dough.  Used to be possible to find them (& many other things) at gun shows for better prices, but doesn’t happen much nowadays.  

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clarence said

Ebay has made it EASY…if you’ve got the dough.  Used to be possible to find them (& many other things) at gun shows for better prices, but doesn’t happen much nowadays.    

Too soon old, too late smart. Thank goodness for reprints. I’ll still go to collector gun shows but suspect most folks there know what they have. May need to venture out to the regular shows again, maybe get a table to liquidate my surplus “modern” stuff.

 

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Thanks for sharing.  What an interesting question that one little drawing creates!

It seems like a rifle with this style checkering would have surfaced and been discussed before now – but maybe things will work in reverse. Now that the drawing has been discussed, a rifle may materialize…

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Matt74 said

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Matt74 said

Here is a pic of Marlin’s No 2 checkering.  The checkering on the buttstock is very similar to that in the above catalog.
 

Minus that beautiful “S” curve PG that Marlin was noted for, going back to the Ballard.  

Clarence, those “S” curves are a thing of beauty. I always have been one for “curves”…?  

Marlin’s “S” curves do have a certain appeal!

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The Bullard had a swell to the grip as well:

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It is interesting that the 1894 catalog shows the carbine and the fancy sporting rifles as having “first model” receivers but the standard sporting rifle is not.

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