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Just picked this up Tuesday from a small collection in Washington state. Love the “curb appeal”!
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Hi There Rick,,,,,,
I would have liked to be the Person that Ordered that one Back in the Day,,
It’s a Beauty for Sure………..
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Rick Hill said
Just picked this up Tuesday from a small collection in Washington state. Love the “curb appeal”!
Rick,
Very nice semi deluxe. Looks really nice with the short barrel.
Al
January 26, 2011
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Hi Rick
Great looking short rifle, I think I need that one for my collection. Also, its a new one to add to my 1894 short rifle database.
BTW – got your email too……thanks for sharing.
~Gary~
Gary:
I’ll be taking it to Denver………….
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Hey Rick,
Correct me if I am wrong but,,
I would Classify that Rifle, as a Deluxe, being it is a Checkered Pistol Grip and Forend, Plus all the Other Special Order Features. Or is it Because of the Standard Grade Wood it appears to be, that it’s a Semi Deluxe. Plus if that is the case, then the Person would have had to Ordered it with Straight Grain Wood. Instead of the Factory Adding Extra Finish Wood at No Cost…..
"I Would Have Rather Lived Through The Industrial Revaluation"
"Instead of The Space Age"
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January 26, 2011
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Hokie,
Not to answer for Rick, but my observations have been that a large number of collectors consider the cheaper “I” checkering pattern combined with plain wood as a “semi-deluxe” compared to the “H” style of checkering and fancy grain (maybe 1X or higher) to be a true deluxe gun. Ricks example would likely letter as “Plain, pistol grip, checkered”. I also see others calling a pistol grip gun with no checkering a semi-deluxe, but I think that’s a stretch for the term. Since the word Deluxe wasn’t used in catalog descriptions of the Winchesters until much later, like the M71 era (I think), I guess its more of a collectors term that has developed over the years and will vary from one individual to the next.
This all being said, its a darn nice looking 1894 with some desirable upgrades. I think any Winchester with a pistol grip and checked stocks adds that extra curb appeal, as Rick calls it.
~Gary~
Gary:
Well said my friend. Yes, both terms “deluxe” and “semi-deluxe” are collector jargon and were not used by Winchester. The plain wood with the “I” checking adds up to “semi-deluxe”. The pistol grip is simply an additional special order feature.
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Now, I always considered a rifle with a pistol grip but no checkering to be ‘semi-deluxe’. Once you add checkering, in my opinion, it becomes ‘deluxe’, whether or not the wood is simple straight-grained walnut, or 1X, or 3X, etc. If a rifle were to have a straight grip and no checkering, but fancy walnut (if such a rifle exists–any 3X straight gripped rifles out there with no checkering), I would not consider it ‘deluxe’, it has a special order walnut stock. Likewise, for checkering with no pistol grip, although, 90%+ of the time, this was done after leaving the factory.
Having stated the aforementioned, I have NEVER liked the terms deluxe, semi-deluxe, etc. Far better to say it is a rifle with a pistol grip and H style checkering. Then you KNOW what it is or isn’t. I have said MANY times, about this and other matters, that the terms deluxe, luxury, gourmet, etc. are not in my vocabulary.
Rick Hill said
Gary:
I’ll be taking it to Denver………….
Gary might have a Marlin for you in trade….
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hedley lamarr said
Rick Hill said
Gary:
I’ll be taking it to Denver………….
Gary might have a Marlin for you in trade….
As a matter of fact, I do……………probably could work out a straight across trade, worst case scenario I could throw in about $100 boot to spice up the deal for Rick so he feels like he won.
~Gary~
OK, I need to step in and set the record straight… there is NO such thing as a “straight across” trade for a Winchester when a “Marlin” is used. The absolute best a marlin owner should expect is a 2-for-one trade
A marlin is a second class gun at best, and from my personal experience, they are best used as Tomato stakes in your vegetable garden
Bert
p.s. If I offended any marlin owners… good, I achieved my objective!!!
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All of you guys are really cruel. I’ve owned a bunch of Marlins over the years and lost money on every one…………………
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Bert H. said
OK, I need to step in and set the record straight… there is NO such thing as a “straight across” trade for a Winchester when a “Marlin” is used. The absolute best a marlin owner should expect is a 2-for-one trade
Bert
p.s. If I offended any marlin owners… good, I achieved my objective!!!
With regards to pre-1899 Marlins, and pre-1899 Winchesters, the quality is definitely “there” when it comes to Marlins, and the workmanship is not of lesser quality. From an investment point of view, you are better off buying the Winchester, as they will forever be more desireable, and, they at least keep up with inflation, if not soundly exceeding it. A comparable Marlin will likely increase over time, but at a much slower rate and it will take you much longer to recoup your investment if you pay retail.
I agree about vintage Marlins I havent had many , but 1893’s and 27S pumps in 25-20. All were bought because appearance was nice original little used condition (like you all know an equivalent Winchester would be like new in function , no matter how old) but all Marlins Ive had had serious design flaws and function issues
Phil
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