Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Looking for 94 info
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
New Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
January 23, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
January 23, 2022 - 8:59 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Hello, I’ve recently been bit by the Winchester 94 bug and have started a small collection. My most recent appears to be an 09 in 32ws.  Curious if anyone has ever seen stars stamped into the receiver. Also the top of the barrel, just in front of the rear sight, is worn down. (Hard to see in photos) Probably no way to know much about these things but I figured this would be the place to ask. Thanks for any information you can give. 8C045DE5-CF58-4AC9-AC4B-31DE164426D9.jpegImage EnlargerED31EC7D-22E1-4D8C-BE6B-FEFF6E526B0E.jpegImage Enlarger39BE5AF0-988E-43AD-8843-69E52F4353FE.jpegImage Enlarger80F50F71-3B4B-4D09-A87D-803EF0E28DF6.jpegImage EnlargerFECD803E-D38F-4160-B092-72FD5CA0D0DA.jpegImage EnlargerB34956C0-418B-44F0-8D2A-E891CE1BB1CA.jpegImage EnlargerA87F234D-56A4-4A3D-9744-E6E06600DC68.jpegImage EnlargerAD4E61DE-9E3B-4E4A-8D0E-86AAD47FB1DC.jpegImage Enlarger1BD7CCF3-944C-47CF-A28A-78B891B94C03.jpegImage Enlarger9CD5A205-3F2B-40F9-BF72-786B005F4786.jpegImage Enlarger83E44B79-1DE8-40A4-B8B3-2CEDBEF86580.jpegImage Enlarger325897CE-D6F3-4183-8FA8-CF613B8F8DC6.jpegImage Enlarger58ECAB5E-4EEC-4D9A-8BA6-55EF7A05245A.jpegImage Enlarger

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 11578
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
January 24, 2022 - 2:51 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Hello Jay,

What you have is a Model 1894 Take Down Sporting Rifle that was manufactured in January, 1909. 

Unfortunately, at least one of its past owners was not kind to it.  Specifically, the receiver frame has been buffed and refinished (reblued), and the stamped stars are not something that Winchester did.  I highly suspect that the barrel has been shortened (cut down), as the front sight dovetail does not appear to be correctly located.  If you can post clear pictures showing the muzzle face, and another with a tape measure along the side of the barrel from the muzzle to the front sight, that question can be answered.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
New Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
January 23, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
January 24, 2022 - 3:13 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Thanks for taking time to respond. Hopefully these pictures will help.

3F462B1F-E4EA-48B8-AE81-79869227BA0B.jpegImage Enlarger676E931B-21C5-45B1-A16A-5E25199DC4C0.jpegImage EnlargerB0D47803-90EB-42DE-95B5-CF0B187798E4.jpegImage Enlarger032C08E2-45CB-4F90-AA19-FED25090322C.jpegImage Enlarger

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 11578
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
January 24, 2022 - 3:25 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

They do help, but unfortunately they also confirm my suspicion that the barrel was shortened from its original 26-inch length.  The front sight dovetail as milled by Winchester was precisely 15/16″ from the muzzle face to the dead center of the sight.  I suspect that the magazine tube was also shortened, but cannot be certain.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2350
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
January 24, 2022 - 7:06 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bert Wrote:

 I suspect that the magazine tube was also shortened, but cannot be certain.

Jay,

If you will open the lever and unscrew the magazine there may be a very typical spiral wear pattern (as in the attached photo just to the left of the ring) in the bluing on the magazine from where it would have rubbed against what would have been the magazine retaining ring if it were an original full length magazine.

Takedown-3.jpgImage Enlarger

Michael

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4668
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
January 24, 2022 - 10:16 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Jay,

If you will open the lever and unscrew the magazine there may be a very typical spiral wear pattern (as in the attached photo just to the left of the ring) in the bluing on the magazine from where it would have rubbed against what would have been the magazine retaining ring if it were an original full length magazine.

Takedown-3.jpgImage Enlarger

Michael  

Michael – I’ll bet this is a .32 Special Cool A nice one too  Smile

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: Roundsworth, Big Larry, TR, Randycrockett, Ben, Gary Ryan
Guest(s) 225
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 5587
Chuck: 5006
steve004: 4668
1873man: 4472
Big Larry: 2447
twobit: 2350
mrcvs: 1949
TR: 1784
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 13480
Posts: 119041

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1897
Members: 9284
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation