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Latest model 1894 30WCF in my collection
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I finally got around to give my latest gun a thorough cleaning and took some pictures. Missing is the modern Lyman tang sight which is now in place. The gun letters as configured, less the tang sight. Year of manufacture is 1904.

After I installed and adjusted the tang sight I could tell the rear sight was off. I assumed the sight (3 leaf express) itself was bent but when I removed it I could tell the dovetail is milled about 2 degrees off from being perpendicular to the barrel. I’ve never seen this in an old Winchester before but I guess a bad part got by the inspectors every now and then. The rear dovetail is now filled with a Lyman blank.

Has anyone seen a similar issue with a sight dovetail?

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Mark–Lovely part Octagon–have a 92 in 44WCF–only 5 made with Half Octagon…enjoy–Bill

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I have a 92 25-20 that has been rebarreled with a model 65 barrel. The rear sight sits slightly askew. Obviously the dovetail slot is not perpendicular. I don’t know who rebarreled it. Don

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Very nice job,Mark! Can’t believe that it is almost 120 years old

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Mark–Lovely part Octagon–have a 92 in 44WCF–only 5 made with Half Octagon…enjoy–Bill  

Hello Bill,

I have been working on a research survey of the 1892’s for almost 10 years now and have close to 17,000 individual rifles cataloged.  May I ask where you got the information that only 5 1892 were made with half octagon barrel in 44 WCF caliber?  To date, I have found 42 1/2 round, 44 W.C.F. configured rifles.   Can I get the SN of your rifle and some images so that I may add it into my data?  

Thanks so much

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Hi Bill, I’d love to have an 1892 in any caliber with the half octagon barrel. One in 44WCF would be the most desirable to me, however.

All of my 1894 rifles (4) have half octagon barrels. I guess you’d call that the main feature of my collection.

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Hi Bill, (SNIP)

All of my 1894 rifles (4) have half octagon barrels. I guess you’d call that the main feature of my collection.  

Mark-

I am a bit partial to them myself; my first (and only) 1873 is half-round and a few of my 1894’s are too. I really like the way a rifle with a HR barrel looks and balances. 

 

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I only have one 1/2 oct. bbl. A 38-55 with the full magazine. According to the factory letter, it sat in the whse. for 5 1/2 years. Finally being sold in 1912.

I rechecked this with Jesse the Records Specialist.

Very nice rifle with a mint bore and lots and lots of blue remaining. One of my favorites.  Big Larry

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i have a 1892 with tang sight and half oct barrel takedown in 38-40, a local rifle with a ex bore.

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Hi Bill, I’d love to have an 1892 in any caliber with the half octagon barrel. One in 44WCF would be the most desirable to me, however.

All of my 1894 rifles (4) have half octagon barrels. I guess you’d call that the main feature of my collection.  

Mark – I too have always really liked the look and feel of a half-octagon barrel. I would not let the desire for a 44 caliber gun have you passing on a nice 32-20, 38-40 or 25-20. I looked for a checkered Model 92 in 44 for years and finally bought a nice 25-20 – have never looked back and never regretted the decision. Sometimes the “chase” can be fun but while you are chasing a particular gun you may be passing up nice guns that are going into collections, never to be available again in our lifetime. I chased a Model 53 in deluxe configuration, any caliber, for 30 years and was never successful. But, early on I did tuck away a nice standard grade 53 in 44-40 takedown which I planned to keep until I found the deluxe gun – which never happened so I was glad I tucked away the standard grade gun. When I downsized that Model 53 in 44-40 found a new home with a WACA member. Here’s the little 25-20 – long ago I got over it not being a 44 WCF and I am glad to have it.

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Burt,

your model 92 is in amazing condition.  Not many in deluxe/special features and not many in that high of condition.  A beautiful rifle.  thank you for sharing the photos and the letter. 

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Mark–Lovely part Octagon–have a 92 in 44WCF–only 5 made with Half Octagon…enjoy–Bill  

Hello Bill,

I have been working on a research survey of the 1892’s for almost 10 years now and have close to 17,000 individual rifles cataloged.  May I ask where you got the information that only 5 1892 were made with half octagon barrel in 44 WCF caliber?  To date, I have found 42 1/2 round, 44 W.C.F. configured rifles.   Can I get the SN of your rifle and some images so that I may add it into my data?  

Thanks so much

Michael  

Hi Michael,

There’s an 1892 44 WCF with half-octagon barrel on Gunboker right now.  Sat over 3 years in the warehouse. Do you have this one in your survey?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/926458343

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Hi Michael,

There’s an 1892 44 WCF with half-octagon barrel on Gunboker right now.  Sat over 3 years in the warehouse. Do you have this one in your survey?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/926458343

Don  

I think think this rifle is overpriced given the condition.  However, it does make me wonder how high it would go if he started it at a penny and let it run?

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Hi Michael,

There’s an 1892 44 WCF with half-octagon barrel on Gunboker right now.  Sat over 3 years in the warehouse. Do you have this one in your survey?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/926458343

Don  

This is actually the 4th time I have seen that rifle since 2015!

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Sorry about that.  Didn’t realize this was one of those perpetual Gunbroker auctions.

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Mark – I too have always really liked the look and feel of a half-octagon barrel. I would not let the desire for a 44 caliber gun have you passing on a nice 32-20, 38-40 or 25-20. I looked for a checkered Model 92 in 44 for years and finally bought a nice 25-20 – have never looked back and never regretted the decision. Sometimes the “chase” can be fun but while you are chasing a particular gun you may be passing up nice guns that are going into collections, never to be available again in our lifetime. I chased a Model 53 in deluxe configuration, any caliber, for 30 years and was never successful. But, early on I did tuck away a nice standard grade 53 in 44-40 takedown which I planned to keep until I found the deluxe gun – which never happened so I was glad I tucked away the standard grade gun. When I downsized that Model 53 in 44-40 found a new home with a WACA member. Here’s the little 25-20 – long ago I got over it not being a 44 WCF and I am glad to have it.

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Hi Burt, 

That is a beautiful gun and probably something I can only dream about. I have an octagon barreled model 1892 in 25-20. It is my worst Winchester, condition-wise, but it is the most fun to shoot.  I found it at a local gunsmith and I made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

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Sorry about that.  Didn’t realize this was one of those perpetual Gunbroker auctions.  

The rifle was first seen and owned by a WACA member “Eagle.”  Then in 2016 for sale on GB out of Michigan.  In 2017 on GB out of North Dakota and now in Washington.  Nothing to be sorry about.  I alway appreciate any info on 1892’s.

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Hi Burt, 

That is a beautiful gun and probably something I can only dream about. I have an octagon barreled model 1892 in 25-20. It is my worst Winchester, condition-wise, but it is the most fun to shoot.  I found it at a local gunsmith and I made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Mark  

Mark – thanks for the nice comment on the half octagon 92. As I said previously there is just something about the look and feel of the half octagon Winchester, regardless of the model. Over the years the configuration has not been as popular with collectors as the full octagon, full magazine with rifle butt guns but I really like them. This is a little off topic for this thread but will post a few photos of a 73 with the half octagon barrel which I have had for over 35 years. 

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