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September 22, 2011
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Since my other Savage 1899 thread was such a hit, I thought I would post this 1913 production Savage 1899 to the forum as it is as close to a Winchester 1894 rifle from that time frame as one can get.
It’s in .30-30 (interestingly, not marked as .30!WCF, perhaps to not draw attention to Winchester)—.30 WCF was very popular then.
It has a full 26” octagon barrel, this was the most common configuration and most desirable as well.
It has a typical crescent rifle butt.
And, a Rocky Mountain front sight.
July 8, 2012
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Very cool configuration.
September 22, 2011
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How do I edit the title, fat fingers typed Sacage instead of Savage?
April 15, 2005
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mrcvs said
How do I edit the title, fat fingers typed Sacage instead of Savage?
Ian,
You can’t edit the title… that function is limited to Admins and Moderators. I fixed it for you.
Bert
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August 8, 2024
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I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
April 15, 2005
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Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!! 
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September 22, 2011
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Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
January 8, 2025
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It really speaks a lot for this forum and the quality of its members. I don’t imagine such a thing would occur on another brand dedicated forum. But I may be wrong. I became a member because I enjoy old guns, and the people in these threads are great.
April 15, 2005
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mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
Ian,
I believe that Bo & I were both posting “tongue in cheek” to your recent post. While the focus of this website and forums is “Winchester”, the occasional divergence to the “lesser off brand” firearms is not strictly verboten, especially those that are chambered for a Winchester cartridge.
Bert
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January 8, 2025
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Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
Ian,
I believe that Bo & I were both posting “tongue in cheek” to your recent post. While the focus of this website and forums is “Winchester”, the occasional divergence to the “lesser off brand” firearms is not strictly verboten, especially those that are chambered for a Winchester cartridge.
Bert
What if I wanted to show off my marlin 36 in 35 Rem?
April 15, 2005
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MidwestCrisis said
Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
Ian,
I believe that Bo & I were both posting “tongue in cheek” to your recent post. While the focus of this website and forums is “Winchester”, the occasional divergence to the “lesser off brand” firearms is not strictly verboten, especially those that are chambered for a Winchester cartridge.
Bert
What if I wanted to show off my marlin 36 in 35 Rem?
That would be a double foul and land you in the Penalty Box for the entire next month!
Bert
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January 8, 2025
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Bert H. said
MidwestCrisis said
Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
Ian,
I believe that Bo & I were both posting “tongue in cheek” to your recent post. While the focus of this website and forums is “Winchester”, the occasional divergence to the “lesser off brand” firearms is not strictly verboten, especially those that are chambered for a Winchester cartridge.
Bert
What if I wanted to show off my marlin 36 in 35 Rem?
That would be a double foul and land you in the Penalty Box for the entire next month!
Bert
Noted…. Thanks Bert
October 14, 2024
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How about my Newton and Ross 
November 19, 2006
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Here’s one with a sight often seen on a Winchester but almost never on a Savage:
November 7, 2015
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As has been pointed out Winchesters are best understood if you are aware of their environment and (occasional) influences. Winchester darned sure studied the competition and in some cases bought them put. Personally I have culled most of my R-word, M-word and S-word examples after enjoying and familiarizing myself with them. No, Shrapnel, I haven’t stuck my head down the Whitney/Kennedy rabbit hole yet because I haven’t found one that met my criteria. Quite frankly my feeble mind and somewhat anemic checkbook require or at least encourage me to focus my collecting efforts so I’ll dance with what brung me; Winchesters are what made me realize I was a collector so Winchesters are what I’ll collect. To that end I sold a nice enough 1873 Springfield this past weekend so I’m making progress. I won’t wear blinders, tho. The rifle in the previous thread was pretty awesome!
Mike
January 20, 2023
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CAPTAIN’S MAST FOR IAN! It was all his fault and I saw him do it. I was merely an innocent bystander. [He also spit in my orange soda…]
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
September 22, 2011
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Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
Ian,
I believe that Bo & I were both posting “tongue in cheek” to your recent post. While the focus of this website and forums is “Winchester”, the occasional divergence to the “lesser off brand” firearms is not strictly verboten, especially those that are chambered for a Winchester cartridge.
Bert
👍👍👍
I posted them, especially this one, as it so very much reminds me of its competition (e.g., a Winchester 1894) and I think that a Winchester lever rifle collector is likely to make room for one of these over other competing brands if they collect this pre WWI era stuff.
September 22, 2011
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steve004 said
Here’s one with a sight often seen on a Winchester but almost never on a Savage:
Very impressive!
January 20, 2023
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mrcvs said
Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Bo Rich said
I prefer the Winchester! Enough is enough on these second rate rifles! 🤪
I Concur!!
Okay, I won’t post these anymore. My previous thread was such a hit I thought I might post this one since I really like the configuration and it really reminds me of a Model 1894 rifle.
In time, I’ll find another Winchester rifle to add to the forum. I have one in the works now.
Ian,
I believe that Bo & I were both posting “tongue in cheek” to your recent post. While the focus of this website and forums is “Winchester”, the occasional divergence to the “lesser off brand” firearms is not strictly verboten, especially those that are chambered for a Winchester cartridge.
Bert
👍👍👍
I posted them, especially this one, as it so very much reminds me of its competition (e.g., a Winchester 1894) and I think that a Winchester lever rifle collector is likely to make room for one of these over other competing brands if they collect this pre WWI era stuff.
In all seriousness, I have yet to meet a Winchester enthusiast who doesn’t own or aspire to own each of several historically significant arms that undoubtedly cost Winchester sales and did inspire or should have inspired WRA management to develop guns to compete. The Browning Auto-5, of course, and Browning’s Trombone rimfire and Superposed O/U, the Savage 95/99, the Mannlicher-Schoenauer, and the Parker. At the risk of ex-communication, history commands me to mention the Marlin 39 family, which WRA ultimately trumped (!) with the 9422, but I have never understood why they gave that market to Marlin for so many years. Production cost, probably. Even Marlin had to quit. Complicated little suckers, all of them.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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