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A couple 1892's from the Cody Show
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I thought I’d share a couple Model 1892’s a picked up at Cody this year. “The short & the long of it”

Mod 1892, 28″ OB, FM, CB, Deluxe                        44 WCF 116049 1899
Mod 1892, 20″ 1/2 OB, 1/2 M, TD, CB                         25-20 WCF 164270 1901

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Very nice Gary.  Love the long and short barreled lever guns.  Are there exact production numbers for the long barreled 1892’s?  All of the long barreled 1894’s are in the letterable range and was wondering if it’s the same for the 1892’s. If that’s the case, wonder how many 1892’s left the factory with 28″ barrels?

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Don,

Not “all” of the long-barreled Model 1894 rifles are in the letterable range… most of them, but not all. Thus far I have documented (8) Model 1894 Rifles with extra long barrels with S/Ns > 353999, and I am sure that there are more of them out there.

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Very nice Gary.  Love the long and short barreled lever guns.  Are there exact production numbers for the long barreled 1892’s?  All of the long barreled 1894’s are in the letterable range and was wondering if it’s the same for the 1892’s. If that’s the case, wonder how many 1892’s left the factory with 28″ barrels?

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I really don’t know what the stats are on the longer 1892’s. Maybe Michael can shed some light from his survey. Most of them I’ve seen are in the smaller calibers, it seems. The 28″ 44 WCF has a really nice bore too, which was a bonus. The receiver has lost all its blue except for what’s protected under the lever, which is pretty nice still.  It letters correctly as a PG checkered and 28″. It also has assembly numbers, as expected. 

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Nice Gary!

Thanks for the post, it was great seeing you in Cody.

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Two rare jewels. My personal favorite two calibers. As good as it gets!  Congratulations on your score!  RDB

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Good looking set of guns Gary.  That 20″ short rifle TD is hard to come by, rare configuration by most standards.  Also a super nice and hard to find deluxe rifle + extra long barrel + 44 WCF.  Congrats.

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Wonderful acquisitions.  Thanks for sharing.

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Nicely done, Gary. Can’t say I’ve seen a rifle quite like either of them, good eye! It was good to visit with you in Cody and put a face with a name and forum alias.

 

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Don,
Not “all” of the long-barreled Model 1894 rifles are in the letterable range… most of them, but not all. Thus far I have documented (8) Model 1894 Rifles with extra long barrels with S/Ns > 353999, and I am sure that there are more of them out there.
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Thanks for the correction Bert.  I just read in the Madis book that extra length barrels were not offered after 1908, which is a year or so outside of the letterable range.  Not sure if that is accurate info or not.  For some reason, I had the year 1905 in my head.  Of those 8 you have documented, what is the highest serial number?

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Don,

The highest verified serial number is 873202 (November 1917), and I have another one in 1912, and another in 1910. I am not of the opinion that George Madis was correct in his assertion about no extra length barrels were manufactured after 1908.

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Folks,  Let me split a hair or two here.  Without re reading my Madis books, I will take the semantics used as they were used.  One commented the long barrels were not “offered” after 1908.  The reply was they were obviously “made” after that date.  Those are not mutually exclusive comments.  Going on frail memory getting apparently even more frail by the week, Winchester would quit cataloging features, yet would provide those for some years later on special order and based on available components in stock.  Longer than standard barrel lengths would fit that nicely.  Tim

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pdog72 said
I thought I’d share a couple Model 1892’s a picked up at Cody this year. “The short & the long of it”

Mod 1892, 28″ OB, FM, CB, Deluxe                        44 WCF 116049 1899
Mod 1892, 20″ 1/2 OB, 1/2 M, TD, CB                         25-20 WCF 164270 1901

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I really like the 92.  Been looking for a fancy pistol grip in 44 for a long time.  Did not see this gun at the show. Very good find.

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Gary,

Those are both wonderful rifles.  Congrats on adding them to your collection.  I’m especially envious of that long-barreled 44 WCF.  Mark

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Thanks everyone. I wasn’t even shopping for 1892’s …….. and see what I brought home. Just goes to show you never know what you might find at the Cody Show. And everyone thinks I’m a ’94 collector …… ha!   I suppose I should share the 1895 that found its way to my table as well. Maybe another post if I get some pics. Anyway…… cant wait till next year.

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Thanks everyone. I wasn’t even shopping for 1892’s …….. and see what I brought home. Just goes to show you never know what you might find at the Cody Show. And everyone thinks I’m a ’94 collector …… ha!   I suppose I should share the 1895 that found its way to my table as well. Maybe another post if I get some pics. Anyway…… cant wait till next year.  

I’d enjoy seeing the Model 1895  Cool

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very nice 1892’s thanks for sharing.

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I’d enjoy seeing the Model 1895  Cool  

I would too, but I probably saw it there. Seems like there was an outstanding selection of 1895’s at the show. 

 

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Good morning from northern Michigan,

Does the short rifle have the barrel address on the left side?  The SN is too early for that style and location placement.

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Good morning from northern Michigan,

Does the short rifle have the barrel address on the left side?  The SN is too early for that style and location placement.

Michael  

Michael,

Yes it does and this rifle was R&R’d out in 1912 and changed to a 20″, in my opinion. It has factory proof marks on both the barrel and receiver. All the measurements are correct for a short rifle and everything letters except for the length. I’m not sure how you log R&R guns in your survey, but I’m fairly confident its correct as a factory re-worked gun based on the later proof marks.

Any thoughts on the 28″ Deluxe 44 cal? It seemed like a scarce rifle to find but I would lean on your research to confirm that.

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