Please consider registering

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —

— Match —

— Forum Options —

Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_Print sp_TopicIcon
M70 Prewar Bull gun info?
July 11, 2013
9:34 pm
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1
Member Since:
July 11, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I am new to this forum. About 20 years ago when e-bay still sold real guns I purchased a M70 Bull Gun and have struggled to get it authenticated. Hopefully experts here can help. The rifle has s/n 14757, 1938 production? It has a 24" bull barrel with a straight taper measuring .780 at the muzzle. It is marked MODEL-70–30-06 SPFLD.- It has target bases at the muzzle, on the front receiver ring and the barrel centered 6" forward of the receiver. It has a Lyman 48 WJS receiver sight and a globe front with aperture insert. The action is a cloverleaf tang with the safety on top of the bolt shroud. The workmanship and finish on the action is simply exceptional as is the operation of the bolt and trigger. In horned mounts (sp) it has a Unertl target scope s/n 38587 with a 16x eyepiece. The stock is a full marksman style with a high straight comb and a full flat beavertail style forend, in a beautiful figured dark walnut not checkered, with a full checkered steel blue butt plate and a nickel finished forend insert and sling swivel with 7 threaded position holes for a hand stop. A fixed blued sling swivel inletted into the butt with 2 mounting screws. The overall condition is excellent ++ and appears to have had very little use. One of the scope base screws in the front receiver ring is broken off. There is 1 factory hole d/t in the rear ring. I have fired numerous bug hole groups with Fed Gold Medal 168 S at 100 yds. with ease and the 10 ring at 200 is not a problem with the Lyman. Any information on the history will be greatly appreciated.

September 16, 2013
10:10 am
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 44
Member Since:
February 15, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I would have to check, but I believe that a ’38 model 70 barrel should be marked ".30 Gov’t 1906"….. so maybe your barrel has been replaced with a later barrel.

September 16, 2013
10:26 am
Kingston, WA
Forum Posts: 11852
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Model 70 serial number 14785 was the last one through the Polishing Room on January 1st, 1938.

MG1890 is correct… a 1938 vintage Model 70 barrel would be marked ".30 GOV’T 1906" versus "MODEL-70–30-06 SPFLD."

I suggest taking the stock off and check the bottom of the barrel for a 2-digit year number. I suspect that it is a 1950s (or later) vintage barrel.


WACA 6571L, Historian & Board of Director Member

September 16, 2013
12:59 pm

The barrel on the Bull Gun is 28" in length. It would be very difficult (if not impossible) to document that the single d&t hole in the rear bridge was a factory special order.

November 19, 2014
12:33 am
Awaiting Moderation

Forum Timezone: UTC 0

Most Users Ever Online: 628

Currently Online:
42 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Forum Stats:

Groups: 1

Forums: 16

Topics: 9177

Posts: 79012

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 1237

Members: 10629

Moderators: 4

Admins: 3

Top Posters:

1873man: 4927

TXGunNut: 3359

clarence: 3229

Chuck: 2809

twobit: 2717

steve004: 2424

Maverick: 1796

Big Larry: 1631

JWA: 1605

RickC: 1401