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June 17, 2013
3:35 am
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It's not a short rifle or a high condition rifle but, it is an ELW prior to them using ramp front sights on these rapid taper barrels.
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Paul

Here is it's 4 & 1/2 year younger brother for sale by LeRoy. A little better condition and a different front sight.

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June 17, 2013
10:09 am
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Isn't amazing how little clearance there is between the bottom of the front sight dovetail and the grooves in the bore?

I have a full length 26" octagon ELW takedown in 25-35 and it is really thin there.

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Rapid taper, standard taper, extra heavy. All 45 caliber.

June 17, 2013
10:18 am
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I don't know how deep the sight dovetail is but, the barrel OD is 0.505" at the muzzle. Since yours is a 25-35, is the barrel even smaller in OD?
Do you know about when they started using the ramp front sight for these? My ELW from 10-26-1907 has the ramp so it is somewhere in between LeRoy's 1902 and mine.

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June 17, 2013
10:30 am
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Well, lets see.

Take the .505" and subtract the bore diameter .308 = .197". Divide that by 2 and that leaves .0985" of steel between the bore and the outside of the barrel. From the .0985" a dovetail must be cut to hold the front sight. If my math is correct, there isn't much meat left underneath the dovetail after it is cut. That is obviously why Winchester went with the ramp.

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Rapid taper, standard taper, extra heavy. All 45 caliber.

June 17, 2013
10:51 am
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The muzzle diameters of the ELW's I have measured vary somewhat. I do not have access to the 25-35 right now but it measures somewhere around .550".

Here is a picture that try's to illustrate how little "meat" is left between the bottom of the dovetail and the bore.

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Rapid taper, standard taper, extra heavy. All 45 caliber.

June 17, 2013
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I have a 44 92 RBR that I look in the muzzle end and can see a depression where the dovetail goes through. with a bore light light , (a borescope viewing might be scary) It is a little disturbing to me .It cant be good for accuracy. I wonder if any of the extremely thin barrel in that area ever chips out ?

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