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1908 Winchester Model 1890 .22 LONG
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I really lucked out when I stumbled across this beautiful Model 1890 made in 1908. Id say it is in excellent condition with most of its original bluing intact, although a plum color in some areas. The wood retains its original finish and there are no cracks or repairs. Its chambered in .22 LONG which I had to order because I couldnt find any locally. The guy I bought it from was shooting .22 LR through it and said he was having feeding issues sometimes. Go figure! I gave him a  quick lesson in .22 Long vs. .22 LR. My great grandmother had one of these in .22 short and Ive wanted one ever since I shot hers as a kid. The sights have been replaced at some point. It currently has a vintage Marbles rear folding sight. Not sure what the front is. I’ll have to research to see which sights would have came on it and replace them later. If anyone knows and wants to post a picture of the front and rear sights, please feel free to do so. Thanks!

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Cliff, I was given my 1907  M1890 at the age of 16 or 17 and I am now 75. Back in those early years, 22 Long was hard to find and actually more expensive than LR’s, so I hand fed LR’s in the rifle for many years. Also many CB and BB caps too, to shoot sparrows for my cat. Nice find too. Months ago, Sportsmans Whse. got a bunch of 22 Longs in and I bought over 500 rds. The rifle sounds like a silenced 22.  Big Larry

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Cliff, I was given my 1907  M1890 at the age of 16 or 17 and I am now 75. Back in those early years, 22 Long was hard to find and actually more expensive than LR’s, so I hand fed LR’s in the rifle for many years. Also many CB and BB caps too, to shoot sparrows for my cat. Nice find too. Months ago, Sportsmans Whse. got a bunch of 22 Longs in and I bought over 500 rds. The rifle sounds like a silenced 22.  Big Larry  

I had no problem finding 22 long online and its the same price as 22LR. CCI makes several varieties. I just bought 500 rounds of 29 gr. copper plated RN. I’ll try some of the CB’s next time. The bore in this rifle has good rifling but pitting in the bottom of the lands so I thought the copper plated bullets might work a little better. I dont know for sure. Previous owner said it would stack the 22LR all day long, even with the pitting.

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Chambers for these guns were cut deep.  The feeding problem with the LR is most likely with the carrier.  Each of the 22’s had their own specific carrier.

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Very nice rifle!  Congratulations.  The rear barrel sight looks like it might be a 34C express, which would have been correct for the 1890.  If so, it was likely a special order.

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Thanks. So, the rear sight is a Marbles and could have been ordered that way?

Here is a picture of the front sight which I believe is incorrect. What do you think?

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I did find this front sight in my stash with a Nov. 1902 pat date. Could this be the proper front sight?

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The front sight on your rifle now looks like a 75C (common on the model 62, no patent date), but I have seen them on very late production model 1890’s.

The front sight from your stash looks like the a 77C blade sight that was filed down a bit. It was available on the model 1890 as a special order, but is more commonly found as standard on the model 1906. The correct standard front sight would be a 75A bead type sight with the same patent date.

The rear sight on your linked Ebay auction is correct for your 1908 vintage model 1890 (30A).

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The front sight on your rifle now looks like a 75C (common on the model 62, no patent date), but I have seen them on very late production model 1890’s.

The front sight from your stash looks like the a 77C blade sight that was filed down a bit. It was available on the model 1890 as a special order, but is more commonly found as standard on the model 1906. The correct standard front sight would be a 75A bead type sight with the same patent date.

The rear sight on your linked Ebay auction is correct for your 1908 vintage model 1890 (30A).  

Thank you for the information! I went ahead and bought the rear sight on Ebay as I have had good luck with the seller in the past. I did find a picture of another 1908 Model 1899 with the same front sight as mine but I couldnt tell if it had a pat. date or not. I’ll just leave it alone since it is close to the transistion.

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My 1907 vintage M1890 has the M1890 front sight later to be called a 75-A. The rear is a Winchester M1890 later to be called a 30-B, marked Jan. 29 1901. It is the earlier rear sight with no cut into the screw hole. My rifle has never been messed with. I think I got the numbers correct. Big Larry

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Big Larry said
My 1907 vintage M1890 has the M1890 front sight later to be called a 75-A. The rear is a Winchester M1890 later to be called a 30-B, marked Jan. 29 1901. It is the earlier rear sight with no cut into the screw hole. My rifle has never been messed with. I think I got the numbers correct. Big Larry  

Larry, is your front sight marked with a patent date?

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Cliff, i have a 1908 model 1890 and yes the front sight does have a patented date on it. I can’t remember what it is but it is dated. If i had to guess i think 1901 but not sure.

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Cliff, i have a 1908 model 1890 and yes the front sight does have a patented date on it. I can’t remember what it is but it is dated. If i had to guess i think 1901 but not sure.  

Thanks Joe. If youn have a chance, please post a picture of it for me. Cliff

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Cliff, I failed to note that you mentioned your rear sight was a Marbles.  I was thinking about the 34 Winchester express sight…sorry about that.

 

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Cliff said

Thanks Joe. If youn have a chance, please post a picture of it for me. Cliff  

Cliff, don’t think i can cause i’m not a official member.

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cliff, here are my sight pat. dates on my 1890. 

Nov. 4 1902, front sight

Jan. 29 1901, rear sight. i have removed it

Jan,29 1879 – May 8 1884, Tang sight

 

                                                                              

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joe45c said
Cliff, i have a 1908 model 1890 and yes the front sight does have a patented date on it. I can’t remember what it is but it is dated. If i had to guess i think 1901 but not sure.  

Cliff said

Larry, is your front sight marked with a patent date?  

Yes. NOV 4 1902   Big Larry

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