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1894 38-55 demi-deluxe short rifle
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deerhunter said
I got the Cody letter for my 1894 short rifle in the mail yesterday, plus a nice surprise from the seller.  Pretty neat old card letter from 1969.

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Very cool!

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 The postcard letter is special, a collector idem in it’s self. T/R

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 The postcard letter is special, a collector idem in it’s self. T/R  

I agree.  To me, it gives the impression this rifle was locked up in someone’s collection for a long time since no other letters accompanied it since 1969.  Does anyone know when the Winchester Gun Museum quit doing the postcards?  I’m guessing sometime around 1970-1971?  I have a letter for another 1894 from the Winchester Gun Museum dated December 20, 1971 (cool it was just 3 days before I was born) but it’s on regular paper:

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Don,

T. E. Hall randomly sent Winchester Museum factory letters on postcards as late as June 1975.  In my research material archives, I have digital copies of more than a dozen of them.  He sometimes sent them in letter form, and sometimes in postcard form.  The June 1975 postcard is the latest date I have found for a “factory letter” issued by the Winchester Gun Museum.

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Bert, I have a letter signed by T. E. Hall on Olin Research Center letter head dated 4/9/62.  When did Tom start sending letters?

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Bert, I have a letter signed by T. E. Hall on Olin Research Center letter head dated 4/9/62.  When did Tom start sending letters?  

I do not know the answer to that question.  The earliest dated letter I have in my records with his name on it is August 19, 1968.

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Don,

T. E. Hall randomly sent Winchester Museum factory letters on postcards as late as June 1975.  In my research material archives, I have digital copies of more than a dozen of them.  He sometimes sent them in letter form, and sometimes in postcard form.  The June 1975 postcard is the latest date I have found for a “factory letter” issued by the Winchester Gun Museum. 

 Here are a couple from TEH Ive been able to find in my dads records, and an old sale sheet from Hubbard thats interesting regarding pricing at the time.

 

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Chris, is this a relative?  It’s cool to have these.  It shows some history for the gun.  In my case I know who owned my gun in 1962.

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Chris, is this a relative?  It’s cool to have these.  It shows some history for the gun.  In my case I know who owned my gun in 1962.  

Gary Doug Hartman was Chris’s father.  Thanks for posting the scans.

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That is a beauty!! As one who greatly enjoys the 38-55 cartridge, thank you for posting those wonderful photos to admire.

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Bert H. said

Doug Hartman was Chris’s father.  Thanks for posting the scans.  

Bert, it was Gary, no worries.  Just one more item on the long list of things that dont work as efficiently as they used to as we get older, a little slipping of the mind occasionally is just one of them Laugh, and I can relate Laugh

Ive been trying to locate more of his old paperwork but over the years its been difficult.  I imagine a lot of his records were in our gun store when it burned down (was gutted) in the 1975 or 1976, cant remember.  Ive been able to find some here and there squirreled away.  Ive got some of his ledgers from the 1960’s and have found several of the guns he owned back then at the auction houses in past years.  There are a couple Id like to try to own again.   

I agree with others regarding the subject gun, thats a neat 38-55 short rifle for sure in a really hard to find configuration.  Kudos.

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Great info regarding the postcard letters–thanks everyone for sharing.  It’s neat to have one of these to accompany my old 1894.

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1892takedown said

Bert H. said
Don,
T. E. Hall randomly sent Winchester Museum factory letters on postcards as late as June 1975.  In my research material archives, I have digital copies of more than a dozen of them.  He sometimes sent them in letter form, and sometimes in postcard form.  The June 1975 postcard is the latest date I have found for a “factory letter” issued by the Winchester Gun Museum. 

 Here are a couple from TEH Ive been able to find in my dads records, and an old sale sheet from Hubbard thats interesting regarding pricing at the time.

 

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Chris – thank you for sharing – at that price I will take all the 92’s! 

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Burt Humphrey said

Chris – thank you for sharing – at that price I will take all the 92’s! 

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Burt, that is a beautiful 92!!!!!  

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