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1/2 mag SRC
October 23, 2019
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Just acquired a m1894 1/2 mag carbine in 30WCF. Didn’t realize the rarity until browsing Renneberg’s book. It’s a grey gun but good bore & rifling and nice wood no issues & shotgun butt steel butt plate. DOM 1907. $500. Post some pics shortly.

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October 23, 2019
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Rick,

My friend Bob (Robert) needs to revise his information regarding 1/2 (button) magazine Carbines... they most certainly are not rare, or even all that uncommon. I have approximately (150) of them dcumented in my reserch survey. What is rare, is a Trapper Carbine with a 1/2 mag (I have found two of them thus far).

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October 23, 2019
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Thanks Bert. Good to know this. Glad I didn’t pay a premium for rarity. Appreciate the info as always.

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October 23, 2019
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AG said
Glad I didn’t pay a premium for rarity. 

Since you didn't, & since it's not as rare as you had believed, I'll volunteer to take it off your hands for what you paid for it.  Of course, I'm sure you won't mind covering shipping & the FFL charge.  Would be considerate to throw in a box of ammo, but I won't insist on that.

October 23, 2019
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clarence said

AG said
Glad I didn’t pay a premium for rarity. 

Since you didn't, & since it's not as rare as you had believed, I'll volunteer to take it off your hands for what you paid for it.  Of course, I'm sure you won't mind covering shipping & the FFL charge.  Would be considerate to throw in a box of ammo, but I won't insist on that.  

Lol Clarence please tell me we will meet someday at a show or something. Better yet I will buy the beers or scotch.....as long as it doesn’t cost more than the ammo & shipping!!

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October 24, 2019
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Bert H. said
Rick,
My friend Bob (Robert) needs to revise his information regarding 1/2 (button) magazine Carbines... they most certainly are not rare, or even all that uncommon. I have approximately (150) of them dcumented in my reserch survey. What is rare, is a Trapper Carbine with a 1/2 mag (I have found two of them thus far).
Bert  

Bert I just noticed the date on the barrel. I remember something about mis dated barrels.

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October 24, 2019
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Rick,

What is the serial number?  The  August 14 patent date error adds some interest to the gun.  The shotgun butt was a special order feature.  The 3-leaf Express sight and the 1/2 magazine were "optional" order features.

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October 24, 2019
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Bert H. said
Rick,

What is the serial number?  The  August 14 patent date error adds some interest to the gun.  The shotgun butt was a special order feature.  The 3-leaf Express sight and the 1/2 magazine were "optional" order features.

Bert  

Sorty forgot to take a pic of the underside.

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October 24, 2019
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AG,

In my opinion, you got that at real good price, nice gun.

Al

October 24, 2019
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tionesta1 said
AG,

In my opinion, you got that at real good price, nice gun.

Al  

Thanks Al. I’ve paid more for a lot less & after reading Berts last reply I’m good with this find & the deal.

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October 24, 2019
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Bert:

 

Is it safe to assume that my 18" baby carbine is one of the two you have noted?

Winchester - Model 1894 Special Order Short “Baby” Eastern Carbine 119046 30 W.C.F. 1901

Shipped 8/2/01

 

One of 12 documented 18” carbines.  Three leaf Express rear sight.  ½ magazine w/ no provision for sling ring. Excellent walnut stocks.  Carbine butt plate. 90+% o/a original condition

October 25, 2019
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Rick Hill said
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Is it safe to assume that my 18" baby carbine is one of the two you have noted?

Winchester - Model 1894 Special Order Short “Baby” Eastern Carbine 119046 30 W.C.F. 1901

Shipped 8/2/01

 

One of 12 documented 18” carbines.  Three leaf Express rear sight.  ½ magazine w/ no provision for sling ring. Excellent walnut stocks.  Carbine butt plate. 90+% o/a original condition

  

Hello Rick,

No, that is not a safe assumption.  My research survey only covers serial numbers > 353999.

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October 26, 2019
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Bert:

So, if I might ask, what are the serial numbers of the 1/2 mag. trappers that you have recorded?

October 26, 2019
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Rick Hill said
Bert:

So, if I might ask, what are the serial numbers of the 1/2 mag. trappers that you have recorded?  

Rick,

1.  525862, 15-inch barrel, 32-40, Rifle butt, 1/2 mag.

2.  883055, 15-inch barrel, 30 WCF, 1/2 mag.

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October 30, 2019
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Had the 1/2 mag SRC to the range yesterday. This carbine is very nimble to handle & the 3 Leaf Express at the 50 notch was right on the money. If only these guns could talk to tell it’s story!

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October 30, 2019
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AG, That will certainly be fun to take deer hunting Downeast. Those short mag carbines are fun to carry and quick handling in the Maine woods. 

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October 30, 2019
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For sure Dana. Shouldn’t need more than 4 rounds anyway 🙄

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