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Just acquired a m1894 1/2 mag carbine in 30WCF. Didn’t realize the rarity until browsing Renneberg’s book. It’s a grey gun but good bore & rifling and nice wood no issues & shotgun butt steel butt plate. DOM 1907. $500. Post some pics shortly.
AG
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Rick,
My friend Bob (Robert) needs to revise his information regarding 1/2 (button) magazine Carbines… they most certainly are not rare, or even all that uncommon. I have approximately (150) of them dcumented in my reserch survey. What is rare, is a Trapper Carbine with a 1/2 mag (I have found two of them thus far).
Bert
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Thanks Bert. Good to know this. Glad I didn’t pay a premium for rarity. Appreciate the info as always.
AG said
Glad I didn’t pay a premium for rarity.
Since you didn’t, & since it’s not as rare as you had believed, I’ll volunteer to take it off your hands for what you paid for it. Of course, I’m sure you won’t mind covering shipping & the FFL charge. Would be considerate to throw in a box of ammo, but I won’t insist on that.
clarence said
AG said
Glad I didn’t pay a premium for rarity.Since you didn’t, & since it’s not as rare as you had believed, I’ll volunteer to take it off your hands for what you paid for it. Of course, I’m sure you won’t mind covering shipping & the FFL charge. Would be considerate to throw in a box of ammo, but I won’t insist on that.
Lol Clarence please tell me we will meet someday at a show or something. Better yet I will buy the beers or scotch…..as long as it doesn’t cost more than the ammo & shipping!!
AG
Bert H. said
Rick,
My friend Bob (Robert) needs to revise his information regarding 1/2 (button) magazine Carbines… they most certainly are not rare, or even all that uncommon. I have approximately (150) of them dcumented in my reserch survey. What is rare, is a Trapper Carbine with a 1/2 mag (I have found two of them thus far).
Bert
Bert I just noticed the date on the barrel. I remember something about mis dated barrels.
Rick,
What is the serial number? The August 14 patent date error adds some interest to the gun. The shotgun butt was a special order feature. The 3-leaf Express sight and the 1/2 magazine were “optional” order features.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Rick,What is the serial number? The August 14 patent date error adds some interest to the gun. The shotgun butt was a special order feature. The 3-leaf Express sight and the 1/2 magazine were “optional” order features.
Bert
Sorty forgot to take a pic of the underside.
tionesta1 said
AG,In my opinion, you got that at real good price, nice gun.
Al
Thanks Al. I’ve paid more for a lot less & after reading Berts last reply I’m good with this find & the deal.
AG
Bert:
Is it safe to assume that my 18″ baby carbine is one of the two you have noted?
| Winchester – Model 1894 Special Order Short “Baby” Eastern Carbine | 119046 | 30 W.C.F. |
1901
Shipped 8/2/01 |
One of 12 documented 18” carbines. Three leaf Express rear sight. ½ magazine w/ no provision for sling ring. Excellent walnut stocks. Carbine butt plate. 90+% o/a original condition |
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Rick Hill said
Bert:
Is it safe to assume that my 18″ baby carbine is one of the two you have noted?
Winchester – Model 1894 Special Order Short “Baby” Eastern Carbine 119046 30 W.C.F. 1901 Shipped 8/2/01
One of 12 documented 18” carbines. Three leaf Express rear sight. ½ magazine w/ no provision for sling ring. Excellent walnut stocks. Carbine butt plate. 90+% o/a original condition
Hello Rick,
No, that is not a safe assumption. My research survey only covers serial numbers > 353999.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert:
So, if I might ask, what are the serial numbers of the 1/2 mag. trappers that you have recorded?
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Rick Hill said
Bert:So, if I might ask, what are the serial numbers of the 1/2 mag. trappers that you have recorded?
Rick,
1. 525862, 15-inch barrel, 32-40, Rifle butt, 1/2 mag.
2. 883055, 15-inch barrel, 30 WCF, 1/2 mag.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Had the 1/2 mag SRC to the range yesterday. This carbine is very nimble to handle & the 3 Leaf Express at the 50 notch was right on the money. If only these guns could talk to tell it’s story!
AG
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