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Hello, a seller on there told me they were prohibited by guns.com from shipping to a C&R license holder….is that accurate?
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Jeremy P said
Hello, a seller on there told me they were prohibited by guns.com from shipping to a C&R license holder….is that accurate?
Hi Jeremy, thanks for the question and you are correct. We do not ship to C&R License holders.
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Jeremy P said
Hello, a seller on there told me they were prohibited by guns.com from shipping to a C&R license holder….is that accurate?
Hi Jeremy, thanks for the question and you are correct. We do not ship to C&R License holders.
Why not? They are perfectly valid Federal Firearms Licenses.
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Jeremy P said
Hello, a seller on there told me they were prohibited by guns.com from shipping to a C&R license holder….is that accurate?
We do not ship to C&R License holders.
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
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Bert H. said
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Jeremy P said
Hello, a seller on there told me they were prohibited by guns.com from shipping to a C&R license holder….is that accurate?
We do not ship to C&R License holders.
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
Bert H. – Admin
I ran into this a lot when I only had my C&R. The reason given is the ATF doesn’t make available an electronic system to verify C&R licenses. I checked and they are right but the ATF does offer an 800 # to verify. The problem is unless the FFL records that call they won’t have a record later if the ATF has an issue with the sale and denies they verified it. I’m 50/50 on it as under the Biden administration, FFL’s had it tough with the zero tolerance policy he implemented and their lively hood on the line. I did run into one legit time an FFL refused to ship to my C&R and the guy couldn’t have been more apologetic about it and that is FFL’s in New Jersey. The state itself refuses to recognize C&R’s and will shut down the FFL for shipping to them. So my point is, I don’t think Guns.com is anti 2nd amendment. I think they are just scared of the regulatory environment around C&R’s and don’t want to give the next Socialist administration an excuse to shut them down! We all know it’s coming don’t we?
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True Buck94, I’ve run into it few times with other sellers, and this has been the reason I’ve gotten a few times as well, they don’t want to call the hotline to verify. The clerk at RIA just did that with mine on Tuesday while I was standing there, it was almost as instant as a web site query would have been. I think it’s lazy if you want to sell collectibles to collectors but can’t accept a collector’s license. It would come down to a gametime decision for me with each one….how bad do I need/want what they have….usually it’s not bad enough.
Someone paid a lot of money I suppose at some historical point to secure the name “guns.com” and the way it sits now is really only a good place to buy brand new stuff, if even that. For used or collectibles, it’s fraught with issues such as poor descriptions, usually nothing near enough good quality photos, exorbitant pricing, and worst of all for me, no real mechanism for communicating effectively with sellers.
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BERT H. Said,
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
Bert H. – Admin
I agree completely!!!
Tony
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
Bert H. – Admin
Agreed! If you are going to be in this business then don’t be complicit in the violation of your customer’s rights by giving in to the mere possibility of an illicit threat that may arise in the future.
July 3, 2020
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I’ve discovered that items listed on GI from this group are a sub-listing… the actual gun shop uses them to list their items. There must be some benefit to the concept, but I don’t know enough to make a determination how it benefits the sellers. Improvise, adapt & overcome! Simper Gumby!
ps… I am not a US Marine, nor am I trying to “steal valor”, just embrace that mindset. 
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[email protected] said
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
Bert H. – Admin
Agreed! If you are going to be in this business then don’t be complicit in the violation of your customer’s rights by giving in to the mere possibility of an illicit threat that may arise in the future.
The mere possibility? No sir, I’m sorry it was a harsh reality under Biden and one I have zero doubt we will see again under the next Democratic Presidency. Not to mention the plethora of states who hate the 2nd amendment and are chomping at the bit to shut down someone as big as Guns.com for any reason at all! Common sense my friends, They sell Guns for living how can they be anti 2nd amendment? Next you will tell me the Cattle Ranchers are Anti Beef? Dairy Farmers are anti Milk? If they lose their license they are completely out of business and they have simply had to make a risk vs reward decision as by the way do lots of FFL’s as they are far from the only ones who have refused to ship to my C&R. One need only look at the many listings on GB to see a lot of FFL’s wont ship to a C&R. I’m no fan of Guns.com but respectfully I think you guys are being too harsh on them. As Henry M told me, that is just my opinion 🙂
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Buck94 said
[email protected] said
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
Bert H. – Admin
Agreed! If you are going to be in this business then don’t be complicit in the violation of your customer’s rights by giving in to the mere possibility of an illicit threat that may arise in the future.
The mere possibility? No sir, I’m sorry it was a harsh reality under Biden and one I have zero doubt we will see again under the next Democratic Presidency. Not to mention the plethora of states who hate the 2nd amendment and are chomping at the bit to shut down someone as big as Guns.com for any reason at all! Common sense my friends, They sell Guns for living how can they be anti 2nd amendment? Next you will tell me the Cattle Ranchers are Anti Beef? Dairy Farmers are anti Milk? If they lose their license they are completely out of business and they have simply had to make a risk vs reward decision as by the way do lots of FFL’s as they are far from the only ones who have refused to ship to my C&R. One need only look at the many listings on GB to see a lot of FFL’s wont ship to a C&R. I’m no fan of Guns.com but respectfully I think you guys are being too harsh on them. As Henry M told me, that is just my opinion 🙂
Buck,
You are missing the point. Attempting to advertise & sell collectable (Curio & Relic) guns to people on a Collector based website, but then blatantly refusing to do business with a Federally licensed collector is both ignorant and disrespectful. As stated, it is just as easy to verify a Type 03 license as it is a Type 01, 02, or 06. If a company that is purportedly in the business of selling firearms is unwilling to learn how to process a valid Federal Firearms License, they should seriously consider if they are in the right business.
Just in case you missed it, we are no longer suffering under “Biden” and his policies. The current DOJ and U.S. Supreme Court are purposefully eliminating and reversing many of the bogus anti 2nd Amendment policies that the Blue states rammed through in past years. I choose to view this from a “cup half full” versus a “cup half empty” perspective, and I will encourage you to do the same.
Bert
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July 8, 2012
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I agree with Bert and others. Why advertise to sell C&R collectable firearms to collectors on a collectors web site and refuse to honor lawful C&R licenses.
Al
November 7, 2015
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It’s their business and their decision. I have a C&R for convenience and encourage other collectors to get one but if a dealer won’t recognize it…well….Bye! That’s MY business decision.
Mike
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Brother Bert you are preaching to the choir! I have experienced many refusals to ship to my C&R before I got my full FFL and like you have no doubt a C&R is a valid FFL and feel frustrated over it. However, when I asked various FFL’s why they wouldn’t ship to a C&R I understood the challenges they face. I absolutely appreciate things are better at the Federal level today vs Biden’s regime but you still got plenty of state issues. Most sellers on GB won’t even ship to other FFL’s in CA, NY, NJ, CT and some add even a few more than that. None of them are anti 2nd amendment, they have just decided the risk isn’t worth the reward for their business. My personal business decision as an FFL is I will ship to any state that has an FFL, C&R included that will accept from me. I believe the reward is greater than the risk. However, I respect if someone else doesn’t want to take that risk. The bigger issue is why can’t the ATF under Trump add the C&R Holders to the FFL database? Would be the quickest and easiest fix. Again, just my opinion and want you to know I always respect what you have to say! Thanks
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Bert H. said
Buck94 said
[email protected] said
That statement affirms and indicates that your company is “anti 2nd Amendment”, and that you have no business posting anything further on this website. A Curio & Relic (Type 03) FFL is a valid legal Federal document.
Bert H. – Admin
Agreed! If you are going to be in this business then don’t be complicit in the violation of your customer’s rights by giving in to the mere possibility of an illicit threat that may arise in the future.
The mere possibility? No sir, I’m sorry it was a harsh reality under Biden and one I have zero doubt we will see again under the next Democratic Presidency. Not to mention the plethora of states who hate the 2nd amendment and are chomping at the bit to shut down someone as big as Guns.com for any reason at all! Common sense my friends, They sell Guns for living how can they be anti 2nd amendment? Next you will tell me the Cattle Ranchers are Anti Beef? Dairy Farmers are anti Milk? If they lose their license they are completely out of business and they have simply had to make a risk vs reward decision as by the way do lots of FFL’s as they are far from the only ones who have refused to ship to my C&R. One need only look at the many listings on GB to see a lot of FFL’s wont ship to a C&R. I’m no fan of Guns.com but respectfully I think you guys are being too harsh on them. As Henry M told me, that is just my opinion 🙂
Buck,
You are missing the point. Attempting to advertise & sell collectable (Curio & Relic) guns to people on a Collector based website, but then blatantly refusing to do business with a Federally licensed collector is both ignorant and disrespectful. As stated, it is just as easy to verify a Type 03 license as it is a Type 01, 02, or 06. If a company that is purportedly in the business of selling firearms is unwilling to learn how to process a valid Federal Firearms License, they should seriously consider if they are in the right business.
Just in case you missed it, we are no longer suffering under “Biden” and his policies. The current DOJ and U.S. Supreme Court are purposefully eliminating and reversing many of the bogus anti 2nd Amendment policies that the Blue states rammed through in past years. I choose to view this from a “cup half full” versus a “cup half empty” perspective, and I will encourage you to do the same.
Bert
Thank you for your response. We completely understand your frustration, and we want to be straightforward with you about where we stand and why.
Guns.com is deeply committed to supporting the Second Amendment and the firearms community—it is the foundation of what we do. Our current inability to ship to a C&R FFL is not a policy decision based on C&R licenses or collectors. It is simply an operational limitation. At this time, our system is not set up to differentiate between C&R and standard FFL licenses, so all firearms we ship must be sent to a standard FFL dealer, regardless of a customer’s C&R eligibility.
We understand that this can be particularly frustrating for collectors who have gone through the process of obtaining a C&R license, and we genuinely appreciate your patience and understanding. Expanding our support for C&R transfers is something we have on our radar for the future.
Similarly, the fact that we only began offering suppressors within the last year and a half does not mean we were opposed to suppressors before then. Our product offerings and capabilities continue to evolve as we expand what we can support.
Regarding the advertising and sale of collectible firearms through WACA, I would recommend reaching out to WACA directly, as they are the organization that approved Guns.com to advertise through their platform.
I hope this helps clarify our position and provides some additional context. We appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with us.
Guns.com Team
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and the insanity continues…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/washington-gun-permit-system-moves-200000114.html
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Buck94 said
and the insanity continues…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/washington-gun-permit-system-moves-200000114.html
Wow. Are they going to require “state” approval to exercise your first amendment right also????
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I think we are getting a bit off topic in this thread posted in “Upcoming Winchester Auctions” so I am going to lock it.
Guns.com, thank you for posting the upcoming auctions and responding to the questions and concerns in an open and forthright manner.
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