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winchester model 1873 mfg. 188
June 23, 2019
10:34 pm
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I have a 1873 winchester mfg.  1888, cal. 38-40.  It will extract the shell from the camber, but will not eject (without working the lever 3-4 times) any suggestions on how to correct this, or is this a job for a gunsmith?  Thanks in advance

June 23, 2019
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Is this gun all original or have parts been replaced? The elevator coming up from the bottom hits the shell and flips it out. When you cycle it with a shell in the chamber does the elevator come all the way up ready to put a new shell in? Where does it hang up? You have to be very specific in what its doing since trying to figure out feed issue is very hard since I can't see it in operation.

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June 24, 2019
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Hello 1873,  with the rifle empty the elevator will come to the top, when a cartridge is fed from the magazine it come up and feeds the cartridge into the chamber, however on the next stroke, it extracts the cartridge, but the elevator stops about half way up.

June 24, 2019
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Where is it hitting? is the elevator hitting the shell? the bolt? something else? Does it cycle good without a shell in it?

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June 26, 2019
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Hi,  it appears that the elevator stops just short of the bolt, is it possible to bend the arm that moves the elevator?

June 26, 2019
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Is the elevator flush with the bottom of the receiver with the lever in the closed position? And you said it feeds the first shell from the magazine into the chamber?
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June 27, 2019
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Have you tried messing with the screw on the bottom of the receiver?  One is for the lever and I think the one on the left is for the elevator?  A certain amount of people believe that these 2 screws should be fully tightened but I have been told that it is not the case.  Loosen it or tighten it. Try it and see if it makes a difference.  I don't believe that the screws will back out because of the spring tension that is on them. 

June 27, 2019
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Hi,  there is some play in elevator with the lever closed, it extends possibly 1/32" below the frame.  However it feeds the first round ok.  what i did today was when working the lever to extract and eject, i push up on the elevator and it ejected the round. Does this indicate that the elevator arm needs adjusting?

June 28, 2019
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I think you have something else going on. When you have a shell in in the extractor and your levering the bolt back you said the elevator doesn't contact the shell or the bolt but without a shell on the bolt the elevator will travel up all the way. Is this correct? The elevator hanging only 1/32" is not enough to cause that problem. To fix the hanging elevator its either wear in the elevator where the lifter  arm rides or a bend to the lefter arm. To bend the arm it has to be removed and if you bend it in the wrong place or too much it will cause problems.

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June 28, 2019
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Hi 1873, I believe the problem is with the elevator being worn, I have a 44-40 that i took the elevator from and installed it, the cartridges extracted and were ejected. so i will order a new one, numrich arms have reproductions in stock, unless you know of other sources?   

June 29, 2019
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The only other source is the used market which you wouldn't know if its good until you get it.

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June 29, 2019
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Hi, thanks for the infro and help on tracking down the problem, ordered a new one from numrich, did't want to take a chance on a used one.  will keep the original though.

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