Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Shimming 1894 barrel?
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 11
Member Since:
September 16, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
October 16, 2015 - 5:46 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I recently acquired a 94 SRC (1909) complete working receiver without barrel and mag.  I purchased an SRC nickel steel barrel and mag, but when the barrel is screwed into the receiver it gos in to far and the bolt won’t close.  To avoid major work and expense is it possible to shim the barrel in front of the receiver and check headspace?  Any ideas from those who know?

Avatar
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4660
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
October 16, 2015 - 5:59 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bill,

You have 2 things that have to happen. The head space has to be right and the barrel has to timed correct so it tightens when the top of the barrel is alined with the top of the receiver. How far off is the timing?

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 352
Member Since:
January 24, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
October 16, 2015 - 6:12 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

You really didn’t give enough information.

Before we even make a guess as to the best solution, we need to first understand what is going on.

We need to know the current shank length, and the distance from the face of the frame to the face of the bolt.

If the extractor cut is not at TDC, the bolt won’t close because of the extractor hitting the barrel, how much past TDC is the barrel turning.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 11
Member Since:
September 16, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
October 18, 2015 - 7:08 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I can’t do any measuring now because I have given it to a gunsmith to look at.  I know what you are talking about on the TDC.  I have had the barrel extractor aligned with the extractor on the bolt.  When the barrel is hand tightened even with the barrel recession and the extractor lined up the barrel goes in just far enough that the bolt will not completely close.  When the barrel is loosened a couple of turns and aligned TDC, the bolt closes complete and tight.  However, when this is done there is a small space (approx. 1/16 “) exposed on the barrel in front of the receiver.  I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about shimming the barrel and is it acceptable to do.  

The receiver, as is understand, was from a 1909 30 wcf.  The barrel is 30 wcf.  I assumed that any 30 wcf barrel would be interchangeable with any 94 receiver.  Evidently not.

Thanks to you who offered advice!

Avatar
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4660
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
October 18, 2015 - 7:27 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bill,

1/16″ is a long way off. I don’t ever recall seeing a gun that someone shimmed the barrel. What your gun smith will probable do is cut the shoulder of the barrel back so it times right then cut the end so you get the correct head space and then rechamber it.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 11
Member Since:
September 16, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
October 18, 2015 - 9:35 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Thanks, Bob.

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: Bryan Austin, Green River Gus
Guest(s) 191
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6195
Chuck: 5609
steve004: 5039
1873man: 4660
Big Larry: 2508
twobit: 2478
mrcvs: 2131
Maverick: 1937
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14437
Posts: 128471

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2021
Members: 9791
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation