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Questions on new to me 1892, manufactured in 1905
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Tony Carro
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I was given a christmas present of the above gun and I want to fix some problems with the gun.  First of all the gun shoots straight.  The problem is it doesn’t have spring/ and follower in the gun.  I have ordered both of these but all the screws on this gun look like they have never been removed.  I cannot move the screws at all with gunsmith screwdrivers.  I have sprayed the screws with liquid wrench several times and still no joy.  I was told to soak the top screw with the the rifle in a container with kerosene for several days to get it loosened up.  Do you guys have any suggestions on this great rifle.  Thanks in advance.

 

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Tony,

Go buy a can of KROIL, apply it and let it sit overnight.

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What Bert said.  KROIL always works.

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I am a long time user of Kroil too, for bore cleaning , rust removal, and screw freeing, and I wonder if it would be suitable for long term bore protection ,  or as a long term  rust preventative for metal or blued surface , or does it evaporate over time ?

 

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If Kroil actually removes rust then you don’t want to use it on a bluing.

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I last used KROIL about a month ago to help free a 100+ year old barrel from its receiver.  Let it sit for 5 days and the barrel unscrewed easily, with a barrel vise and a brass shimmed receiver wrench.  No bluing was removed from the barrel nor the receiver.  The receiver was in a wooden vise with the barrel as perpendicular as possible and the KROIL pooled where the barrel enters the receiver and eventually it bled through to the breech end without any bluing being removed.  I believe the proper effect of the KROIL is that it loosens, rather than removes, rust.

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Thanks for all the responses.  Interesting, I went to Amazon and order a bottle of Kroil.  I also ordered a spring and a follower.  Think what I will do is prop gun so the barrel is in a glass and put Kroil in glass and let it soak up were the srew holds the cap that keeps the spring in to get it out.  Hopefully, will get it loosened up.

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If all else fails, I have used an impact screwdriver to turn seized screws. It works amazingly well, but the challenge is to actually locate a small-sized impact screw driver.

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Well I soaked the top of the barrel where the frozen screw was for 24 hours in the Kroil and the screw came loose.  Could not get the cap off with the screwdriver.  Will soak some more.  I am getting there , slowly but getting there.  Thanks for the suggestions.

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If you can find one, try a longer screw of the same size and pitch as the original cap screw.  Thread it into the cap and try wiggling the cap loose.

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Well making more progress , finally got cap off the magazine tube by using thin blade screwdriver and tapping with rubber gunsmith hammer.  There was a compressed spring and cap in tube.  It was caught up in the tube.  There is a small dent in the tube.  I will probably get a ball bearing or something to slide in there to hopefully straighten the wall.  My new spring and follower showed up so i will still use the new ones for it once the tube gets straightened.

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Well as follow up to my previous post.  I managed to get a piece of round metal bar into the magazine tube then using a gunsmith hammer I tapped the edges of the dent.  The follower cap goes thru the tube now without any impediment.   I went ahead and placed the new spring in the tube and trimmed as per instruction.  The bullets feed now without hanging up.  Man this is a nice rifle.   I went ahead and purchased some reloading dies for this and will start making some 180 grain bullets for it.  Need to figure out how to post a picture on here.

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