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I have a Model 94 from 1907 in 30WCF that I took apart to clean. I’d never taken down any Winchester prior to this and have only viewed a few videos, but the Model 94’s in those videos have some major differences, especially in the magazine tube components and some of the receiver components. Anyway, when I removed the first of the two pivot screws for the 3 3/8″ long carrier, there was a noticeable “twang,” because it was under a significant amount of tension. The second pivot screw came out easily without incident. My question is if that was supposed to happen? The narrow “arm” of this long “tuning fork-shaped” piece is not in the same plane as the wider arm. Due to the heavy gauge of this piece, I can’t believe that it got accidentally bent this way, so I’m assuming that it has a design purpose. I’d like to know what that purpose is. Also, I’m assuming I’m going to have real problems putting this piece back in, because of the amount of tension it was under when I took it out. I’m wondering if it should have been in a different configuration or position when I initially removed it to accommodate removal and take the tension off of its arms. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. The rifle worked relatively fine before I took it apart, but it doesn’t appear to have ever been thoroughly cleaned since it was manufactured over 100 years ago.
Well, I’m not the best guy to offer assistance on this but since there haven’t been any other responses, I’ll share what little I have to offer. I remember dealing with something like this a few years ago. I’m pretty sure we’re talking about the same issue.
There was a bad screw and, after growing more unhappy every time I looked at it, I decided I had to change it. I removed the screw and there was a little click when I removed it. I tried everything and couldn’t get it to line up. I finally removed the screw on the other side and that side didn’t move at all. I inserted a pin and got it to go through both sides and through the receiver. Using the screw on the side that wouldn’t stay lined up, I carefully pushed the pin back through the receiver and was able to get the screw to engage the thread in the carrier. On the other side, the hole stayed in line after the pin was removed.
At least, that’s my recollection. I hope that works for you, too. If not, locate a guy who works on these for a living. It should not be an expensive fix.
What you’re describing is similar to what I was thinking about trying. I’m still cleaning the receiver parts, so I haven’t started reassembling yet. I’m on my third round of cleaning. I’ve never seen a rifle this dirty before. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Update on reassembly. Getting the carrier back in was relatively easy. I didn’t have to apply anything more than a little thumb pressure to get the second screw started. Putting the rest of the pieces in was a real bear. I video-recorded myself disassembling the rifle, but I couldn’t just reverse the order. It took me quite awhile to get everything back to where it belonged. The hammer was the biggest issue. It’s clean now, but I don’t think I want to go through that again. Anyone want to buy a rifle?
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