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Had this question asked to me recently but I couldn’t answer as I’ve never done it or had a gun with a liner. What’s your opinion on barrel re-lining. Would you do it to a vintage Winchester & how much does it usually cost ie; 1873/1892/1894, does it effect collector value, etc.

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RickC said
Had this question asked to me recently but I couldn’t answer as I’ve never done it or had a gun with a liner. What’s your opinion on barrel re-lining. Would you do it to a vintage Winchester & how much does it usually cost ie; 1873/1892/1894, does it effect collector value, etc.

  

Probably had about 20 done over the last 50 yrs by almost everybody in the business, because I was buying antique SS .22s, most of which had badly pitted bores.  Such bores aren’t necessarily accuracy-killers in CFs (esp with jacketed bullets), but are disastrous to fine RF accuracy–and I could tolerate no .22 not capable of 1 MOA at the least.  Of course lining detracts from collector value, but so does a sewer-pipe bore.  Cost is all over the place, but as with everything else, you get what you pay for most (but by no means all!) of the time; will probably run about $300 or more, & I’d be leery of work priced much cheaper.

TJ’s liners are currently considered the best. Last work I had done was by Taylor Machine, whose work I recommend without reservation, though he’s neither the cheapest nor fastest.  I would NOT recommend Redman.

Every gun I had lined was for the purpose of hunting with it–a lot.  So I’d never have it done to a gun I didn’t intend to shoot a lot.

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Unlike Clarence, I had a great experience with Randy Redman.  At the time I had the barrel relined on my high-wall, he was the only person set up to reline a 30-inch No. 3 octagon 22 Long Rifle barrel. Because the rifle was a family inheritance piece, I did not care what it might do to the value… I wanted it to shoot accurately, and it does!

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Unlike Clarence, I had a great experience with Randy Redman. Bert H. said

Work he did for me was shortly after I saw his first ad in the Single Shot News, probably 40 yrs ago.  A man can learn a lot in 40 yrs, so more power to him if he’s now doing such fine work.

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Taylor relined my 1892 in 32WCF, it will never be a collector piece so it now wears a modern tang sight and globe front sight. I’m pretty sure he used TJ’s liner, the twist rate differed from the original but it works fine for my little lead bullets. As it understand it the relined barrel has the potential to be more accurate than a new barrel but I think that would be difficult to prove. My relined shooter is indeed very accurate as far as I can tell. If I didn’t know it had a liner I probably wouldn’t notice it, he does a great job.

 

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Taylor relined my 1892 in 32WCF, it will never be a collector piece so it now wears a modern tang sight and globe front sight. I’m pretty sure he used TJ’s liner, the twist rate differed from the original but it works fine for my little lead bullets. As it understand it the relined barrel has the potential to be more accurate than a new barrel but I think that would be difficult to prove. My relined shooter is indeed very accurate as far as I can tell. If I didn’t know it had a liner I probably wouldn’t notice it, he does a great job. 

It always used to be said that a Parker-Hale lining job was more accurate than the original bore, though barrel-makers like Pope & Hubaleck might disagree.  I know Taylor (as well as others) does that trick of hiding the liner at the muzzle, but anytime you see a bright shiny bore in a well-used gun, the cat has got out of the bag. 

But Mike, even a lined ’92 deserves an original Lyman or Marbles tang sight!

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Clarence-

i can generally spot a liner from the breech end, even the best smiths don’t hide their work very well there. I consider tang sights a temporary addition to my shooters but even modern ones aren’t cheap. I plan to restore the guns to as close to original as possible after I get tired of shooting them. This 1892 was one of my first old Winchesters, I learned a lot and had a lot of fun with it. Funny thing is someone shortened the barrel to 23” and I didn’t notice until John called to ask if I wanted him to put that missing inch back on. Would have liked to see how he did that but I was already into this toy for way too many $$$. I think I need to shoot that old 92 this weekend.

 

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