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Winchester Cleaning Rod Set For Small Bore Rifles
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Henry Mero
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December 30, 2020 - 7:18 pm
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$700.00 actually isn’t to bad a price if they’re good

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 Harry, I have never seen a rod with a eyelet so small. Did they make rods like this for small bore guns? T/R

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I can’t say for sure but  I have a mod ’94 with the trap door butt plate and 4 regular 1873 rods will fit in there 

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Henry Mero said
I can’t say for sure but  I have a mod ’94 with the trap door butt plate and 4 regular 1873 rods will fit in there   

I do too. But my 94 is in 38-55….

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 The shape of the eyelet is a new one on me, the other 3 rods look normal. Has anyone seen this eyelet shape before? T/R

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I was told that original Winchester cleaning rods all had a shoulder at the base of the male thread and that the female end had a relief that fit snugly over that shoulder to increase the rod’s rigidity.  The 1916 Winchester catalog clearly shows this.  The cleaning rod for sale does not have the shoulder.  If I am mistaken in this information please enlighten me. Thank you.  RDB

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That’s what I saw too and the brass head is small diameter but if these were special made for the small caliber you can’t go by what was standard. I would want to see more examples of of them to see a pattern. My own thought about what Winchester would of done is to make them out of smaller diameter rod  and keep the design the same.

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Interesting, I’ve never had a small bore 73 and have never seen a rod for such.  Never thought of it before.

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Chuck said
Interesting, I’ve never had a small bore 73 and have never seen a rod for such.  Never thought of it before.  

Winchester didn’t put a cleaning rod door on the butt plate on 73’s in 32 or 22 caliber that I have found.

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1873man said

Winchester didn’t put a cleaning rod door on the butt plate on 73’s in 32 or 22 caliber that I have found.

Bob  

So if the 73 never had the compartment that means only special order guns had one?  I mean in all small bore models.  Wasn’t this a special order in the 92’s and 94’s?

Bert, have you seen one in an 1885?

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December 31, 2020 - 10:27 pm
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It would of been a special order on a 92 or 94 if it letters.

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Chuck said

So if the 73 never had the compartment that means only special order guns had one?  I mean in all small bore models.  Wasn’t this a special order in the 92’s and 94’s?

Bert, have you seen one in an 1885?  

I have surveyed (300) Single Shot rifles with a Trap Door butt plate thus far.

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Bert H. said

I have surveyed (300) Single Shot rifles with a Trap Door butt plate thus far.  

Have you seen any small bore cleaning rods?  My 22 WCF and 32-40 do not have the door.  I will go back into the safe and measure a rod and see if it will fit in a 38-55.  I have several rods but they are for 73’s or 76’s.

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Chuck said

Have you seen any small bore cleaning rods?  My 22 WCF and 32-40 do not have the door.  I will go back into the safe and measure a rod and see if it will fit in a 38-55.  I have several rods but they are for 73’s or 76’s.  

Chuck,

Cleaning rods were available for .32 caliber and up.  When the 1st Variation Winder Muskets were introduced, Winchester included a wiping rod with them.

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Bert H. said

Chuck,

Cleaning rods were available for .32 caliber and up.  When the 1st Variation Winder Muskets were introduced, Winchester included a wiping rod with them.  

Thanks Bert.  I like learning..but why do you have to call it a wiping rod?  This could go on for days.  Who started calling them cleaning rods?  Who cares, not me.

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Chuck said

Thanks Bert.  I like learning..but why do you have to call it a wiping rod?  This could go on for days.  Who started calling them cleaning rods?  Who cares, not me.  

Winchester referred to them as “wiping” rods in their catalogs.  I do not believe my use of that term is going to confuse anyone…

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Bert H. said

Winchester referred to them as “wiping” rods in their catalogs.  I do not believe my use of that term is going to confuse anyone…  

Bert, I know they were called wiping rods but it seems it is PC to use this term just like they did over 100 yrs. ago even if the collector terms make more sense in the 21st century.

I was joking with you to a point.  I have no problem calling them either.

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  On a Henry or 66 the firing pin is called a piston, the striker is called a snapper,and the extractor is called a spring catch. On the 73 the name of the spring catch was changed to a cartridge extractor. The English language is constantly changing and so am I. Cleaning rod is where I stay, it conveys the mental picture in my mind and everyone else’s of a cleaning rod. The word wiping reminds me of something you do in the bathroom.

 This post was meant to be light hearted but true. T/R

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TR said
   The English language is constantly changing and so am I. Cleaning rod is where I stay, it conveys the mental picture in my mind and everyone else’s of a cleaning rod. The word wiping reminds me of something you do in the bathroom.

 This post was meant to be light hearted but true. T/R  

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