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1873man
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The NPS, in cooperation with the Arizona Game and Fish Department, seeks skilled volunteers to assist with the removal of bison on the North Rim of Grand Canyon National Park in the fall of 2021.

Volunteers must be U.S. citizens 18 years of age or older with valid identification; be able to purchase and pass a background investigation; have no criminal or wildlife violations; self-certify a high level of physical fitness ability; have a firearm safety certification and pass a marksmanship proficiency test; provide equipment; be available for the entirety of one of the assigned lethal removal operational periods; and meet additional requirements listed on the NPS FAQ page and application.

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1873man said
The NPS, in cooperation with the Arizona Game and Fish Department, seeks skilled volunteers to assist with the removal of bison on the North Rim of Grand Canyon National Park in the fall of 2021.

Volunteers must be U.S. citizens 18 years of age or older with valid identification; be able to purchase and pass a background investigation; have no criminal or wildlife violations; self-certify a high level of physical fitness ability; have a firearm safety certification and pass a marksmanship proficiency test; provide equipment; be available for the entirety of one of the assigned lethal removal operational periods; and meet additional requirements listed on the NPS FAQ page and application.

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Can’t pass the fitness part.  Not going to get a safety certificate.  I’ve had the chance to shoot buffalo before and passed.  I guess these you may have some difficulty of finding them but then they just stand there and let you shoot them.  Who hauls them out?  No buffalo heads allowed in my wife’s house.  I went on the site and really don’t want to participate in something like this even if I was able to.

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I don’t, but if I did, I’d be trying hard to marry into, or otherwise join, one of the neighboring Indian tribes, which will be given priority you can be sure.  

What I would like to shoot are some of the feral horses that are destroying the habitat of native wildlife & competing with them for food & water.  But they have total protection, despite hugely overpopulating their range, while the buffalo are going to be slaughtered; I don’t get the difference. 

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Chuck said
Who hauls them out? 

The description that it’s not a “hunt,” but simply a culling operation, makes it sound like trophies cannot be taken, except by the Indians for use in rituals; but I may be mistaken.  

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Thats what I got from  the FAQ. Its not a hunt where you get to take home trophies. The way it sounds is a government official tells you which one to shoot. The only neat thing would be is if you can use a old Winchester like the old days.

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Between 2006 and 2015 I hunted and shot 9 buffalo.  These animals were hunted on ranches here in Montana.  Not one was a pen shoot.  All were in the wild, on ranches of 3000 to 7000 ares. It was far from an easy hunt.  Buffalo can look very docile, but in fact, they are extremely dangerous.  I hunted them because we lived off the meat.  Grass  fed animals are absolutley  delicious.  I saved the skulls and had the hides tanned on all of them.  All were taken in winter, when hides were prime.  I might also add that all were taken with 1876 model Winchesters.  One with a .45-60, four with .45-75  carbines and a deluxe rifle.  The others were taken with the .50 -95 Express.  Once they are on the ground, the amount of work involved is not for the faint of heart, even it you know how to use a hatchet and skinning knife.  It was a wonderful experience and one I  will never forget.  Having said all this, it was always on our minds what a majestic and wonderful animal the buffalo is.  We never took these hunts for granted.

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Rick, I don’t have anything against hunting buffalo.  But I really don’t agree with this specific one.  I had several offers to hunt them like you but chose not to.  I have been around wild buffalo a few times and agree on how temperamental and dangerous they can be. If I had a place for the mount or hide I might change my mind.

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Brenda and I watched one charge a carload of “visiting ” tourists in Yellowstone a couple years ago It was funny as hell, the 2 guys out with their Nikons made a more than hasty retreat to the Honda with the bison right on their heels. He did hit the car but not very hard, with all the yellin’ and screamin’  comin’ from there, I didn’t understand any of it but I had a pretty good idea man I’ll bet that Honda stunk with do-do droppings and there would be extra laundry that nite. That bison wasn’t interested in Us or Our Harley, albeit at a respectable distance. I don’t think I could shoot one, they’re so damned cute

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Pass. I wouldn’t be able to use much of the meat but the part about toting it out with no vehicles was a bit of a non-starter. Then I read about the lead-free bullets and it just went downhill from there. Didn’t say what this job pays but it probably isn’t enough. 😉

 

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They said they were looking for volunteers which usually means no pay.

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1873man said
They said they were looking for volunteers which usually means no pay.

Bob  

Noticed that. At least their “marksmanship” requirements don’t set the bar too high. I guess I’ve never really wanted to shoot a buffalo bad enough to cut it up and carry it out. 

 

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There is a large herd of buffalo near Salt Lake City.  Each year the locals try to get a chance to help in the round up so the herd can be moved.  My sister has been lucky enough to get picked.  All you need is a horse and the ability to keep from getting run over and stomped by one of the beasts.  She has some stories to tell.

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