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December 21, 2006
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Today I was looking at a auction site on Proxibid, Alderfer auction lot #2169, there was a 1894 , ser#1,254,806, 1940 vintage with an odd looking tang safety , the sellers description read that there were 6 of ’em “factory” made and shipped to a dealer in Tonawanda. I’ve never seen nor heard of this before. I was at a friends house and didn’t get to take a good hard look at it. Any thoughts.
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January 20, 2023
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Henry Mero said
Today I was looking at a auction site on Proxibid, Alderfer auction lot #2169, there was a 1894 , ser#1,254,806, 1940 vintage with an odd looking tang safety , the sellers description read that there were 6 of ’em “factory” made and shipped to a dealer in Tonawanda. I’ve never seen nor heard of this before. I was at a friends house and didn’t get to take a good hard look at it. Any thoughts.
Henry, That is interesting. I wonder what the seller had to back up.his assertion the tang safety was factory work and there 6 made for an Erie County, NY dealer?
At the height of its business, long before Westetn bought the old WRA assets from a receiver, the original company would probably have done something like that tang safety, for a generous extra price..but by 1940, unless the Tonawanda dealer had a picture of John Olin doing something he should not do — or was a close and wealthy friend — it is hard to imagine the new company accepting the order in 1940..
Which may do nothing more than prove my ignorance.
Still, I did notice the gun didnt bring a blockbuster price. Unless I read the auction summary wrong.
- Bill
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"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
November 7, 2015
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It seems to have brought about what it was worth.
Mike
January 20, 2023
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Zebulon said
Henry Mero said
Today I was looking at a auction site on Proxibid, Alderfer auction lot #2169, there was a 1894 , ser#1,254,806, 1940 vintage with an odd looking tang safety , the sellers description read that there were 6 of ’em “factory” made and shipped to a dealer in Tonawanda. I’ve never seen nor heard of this before. I was at a friends house and didn’t get to take a good hard look at it. Any thoughts.
Henry, That is interesting. I wonder what the seller had to back up.his assertion the tang safety was factory work and there were 6 made for an Erie County, NY dealer?
At the height of its business, long before Western bought the old WRA assets from a receiver, the original company would probably have done something like that tang safety, for a generous extra price..but by 1940, unless the Tonawanda dealer had a picture of John Olin doing something he should not do — or was a close and wealthy friend — it is hard to imagine the new company accepting the order.
Which may do nothing more than prove my ignorance. Still, I did notice the gun didn’t bring a blockbuster price. Unless I read the auction summary wrong.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 20, 2023
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I guess if we were looking for historical precedent for the tang safeties on current production Models 86, 92, 94, and 95 …..this would be a pretty weak reed to stand on unless said Tonawanda dealer’s heirs could produce some special order paper.
I have to ask what purpose these gadgets served? The entire (or at least the rational) purpose of the current tang safety is to save.the unusually ill-coordinated owner from shooting his foot off while placing the hammer in the half-cock position. But this 1940 Rube Goldberg Special safety requires the shooter to first lower the hammer before the safety can be engaged!!
I’m inclined to call Bravo Sierra on the idea Winchester-Western had anything to do with it..
- Bill
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"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
April 30, 2023
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TXGunNut said
It seems to have brought about what it was worth.
Mike
I don’t see a closing price?
January 20, 2023
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Jeremy P said
TXGunNut said
It seems to have brought about what it was worth.
Mike
I don’t see a closing price?
$1300 USD is what I read. I don’t know what it would be worth without the tang safety — more? The earliest M94 carbine Ive owned was a 1951 vintage 99% longwood that I let go for $780, but that was in 2021.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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