January 20, 2023
OfflineI wonder if he’s asking about a Parker Reproduction set? The logo on the inside case lid of those reads “Parker by Winchester”. Wilson and some other collector book authors have treated them as Winchesters in their books.
The late Tom Skeuse, who owned Reagent Chemical Corporation, was a serious Parker collector who made a deal with Olin to manufacture the guns at the Olin-Kodensha plant in Tochigi Prefecture, where the 101 and 23 were being made.
There weren’t a lot of 12 gauge PBW guns made by OK, most production was 20 gauge and then fewer 28 gauge. The 12 gauge sets are rare.
Most PBW of any gauge were DHE grade. Some CHE and BHE. The A Grades were made almost in onesies and twosies.
The OP needs to say if his set is a Parker by Winchester. If not, it’s beyond the pale and no kin to a Winchester. If so, it’s sort of a Winchester born out of wedlock.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 20, 2023
OfflineThanks, Ian. All I think I know is the “V” grade is the least expensive and most numerous and the “H” means “hammerless.” If there’s no “E” — as in “VHE” — it has extractors only, not ejectors.
73 SK
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
September 22, 2011
OnlineZebulon said
Thanks, Ian. All I think I know is the “V” grade is the least expensive and most numerous and the “H” means “hammerless.” If there’s no “E” — as in “VHE” — it has extractors only, not ejectors.
73 SK
All this is correct.
My information is from the Parker Serialization book, a must have, great stocking stuffer from Santa.
January 20, 2023
OfflineIan, Duly noted but I’m not a Parker guy. My only connection to the brand is I couldn’t afford a Winchester 21 but did have enough experience with the Olin-Kodensha Winchesters to know they were a bargain, particularly the 101 Pigeon Grades. By the time I laid eyes on a 99.9% Parker Reproduction 20 gauge, 2 barrel cased set on consignment at McBride’s, well after production had ceased, I knew the company’s story and where the gun was made. I snatched it up and have never been sorry. Sadly, the entire inventory of parts and remaining work in progress was later destroyed by a major flood so replacement parts are unavailable. On the other hand, the first quality of the guns has been recognized and they are sought after collectibles in their own right. And the 20 is a wand.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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