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March 20, 2010
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TXGunNut said
1892takedown said
Speaking of movies and firearms, anyone ever noticed the 1892/94 SRC in Full Metal Jacket?
Nope, will keep my eyes peeled. Can you give me a hint?
Mike
Its the scene when they are rallying to take the city with “Cowboy”.
Chuck said
I like the scene in Unforgiven when they were forming the posse to go after Clint and friends. One of the guys was complaining about not getting any 30-30’s. Movie was supposed to be in 1881.
My favorite of all-time is Dances with Wolves in the dramatic scene where Kostner is shooting at the buffalo with his Henry rifle, and if thats not bad enough, his Henry has no cartridges in it. In terms of original Henry’s, think the one in “The Man from Laramie” is the real deal perhaps.
Chris
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November 19, 2006
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This is worth watching – fits the theme of this thread. Plenty of Mare’s legs too:
March 31, 2009
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1892takedown said
My favorite of all-time is Dances with Wolves in the dramatic scene where Kostner is shooting at the buffalo with his Henry rifle, and if thats not bad enough, his Henry has no cartridges in it. In terms of original Henry’s, think the one in “The Man from Laramie” is the real deal perhaps.
Chris
I’ll have to watch that scene again.. The Henry could be of the period but I’ll have to look at where the follower is. I believe that the arrows would be more powerful than the 44 RF. But a Buffalo hit in the lungs will go down fairly easily.
March 20, 2010
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Chuck said
1892takedown said
My favorite of all-time is Dances with Wolves in the dramatic scene where Kostner is shooting at the buffalo with his Henry rifle, and if thats not bad enough, his Henry has no cartridges in it. In terms of original Henry’s, think the one in “The Man from Laramie” is the real deal perhaps.
Chris
I’ll have to watch that scene again.. The Henry could be of the period but I’ll have to look at where the follower is. I believe that the arrows would be more powerful than the 44 RF. But a Buffalo hit in the lungs will go down fairly easily.
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Dances_With_Wolves
Chuck, its the scene where the wounded buffalo is charging the younger kid. I recall his rifle being empty but firing because the follower is at the receiver while he is shooting. But on the stampede preceding the wounded buffalo charge scene, it looks like the follower is about 2/3 the way down the mag tube. Also, in DWW, they got the peaceful vs. friendly Indian tribe roles a bit wrong and reversed. Still a good movie though.
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November 7, 2015
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Best I can tell, Chris, they got the guns right more than they did the Indians. I noticed the magazine follower error before I knew much about the Henry, seems to be a common error if you watch for it.
Mike
November 2, 2009
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I am always looking for original guns that are correct (or as close to) the time period portrayed in the TV show or movie. Actually there are several on my list. Original Henry rifles being used in “Union Pacific” with Joey McCrea 1939. Movie takes place in 1868. Also used in the earliest “Bonanza” TV shows.
Original 1876 Winchester carbines used in “North West Mounted Police” with Gary Cooper, 1940. Movies takes place in 1885. There was at least one, maybe two original “long forend” 1886 carbines in this movie also.
March 20, 2010
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Im not a Volcanic afficionado, but the one in “For a Few Dollars More” looks to be original. Also in that movie there is a guy with a short carbine stuck through his belt loop in the El Indio prison breakout.
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July 2, 2023
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TXGunNut said
For the last several days I’ve been holed up in the room where the magic happens since I can’t figure a better way to ride out an ice storm. After messing with classic cartridges all day it’s hard to beat a cocktail and an old DVD. Last two nights have featured some of my favorite firearms in supporting roles. Rough Riders always makes me think I need an 1895 SRC, a Krag rifle and a 7 1/2″ Colt revolver to make my collection complete. Opening scene of Desperate Trail features a nice 1886 in what must be 45-70. Since I don’t tire of Sam Elliott, old movies or old guns easily I believe I’ll watch You Know My Name tonight.
Only ice I encountered today was in a shady corner of a country road by the range, my driveway and a few chips in some excellent bourbon. They offset each other nicely!
Mike
I grew up with my Italian grandfather, who loved all the old cowboy and Spaghetti Western films — Bonanza, Clint Eastwood’s The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and many others. An interesting note, for those who may not already know, is why they are called “Spaghetti Westerns.” Director Sergio Leone filmed many of these movies in Italy and Spain, particularly during the mid-1960s, using the geography and landscape to convincingly mimic the backdrop of Mexico and the American Southwest. A Fistful of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965), and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) are some of the best.
I always loved the old special effects — the distinctive sound of bullets ricocheting, the heavy clouds of smoke…
It feels like a bygone era now, in today’s world, so to speak.
One of my favourite scenes, although it does not feature a Winchester firearm, is from True Grit (1969), where John Wayne, as Rooster Cogburn, famously carries a single-shot .45-70 Springfield Trapdoor rifle while shooting from a perch high on a cliff.
I may not be able to rock the old “Ten Gallon” hat on my head but I am a lover of cowboy westerns at heart
November 7, 2015
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Alexander-
I always got a kick out of the beautiful Arabian horses used in so many of the Spaghetti Westerns, your mention of G, B & U reminded me of that. several of the prop guns used in the Spaghetti Westerns were pretty junky but that was probably pretty accurate, come to think of it.
Mike
November 7, 2015
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Watched “Return to Lonesome Dove” this past weekend, enjoyed seeing the 1866’s and 1873’s. I like it when the movie folks try to get it right.
Mike
December 9, 2002
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Mike,
You truly picked a good one to go back and watch, as that’s on my list of favorites, and getting the guns mostly correct! 
Tony
January 8, 2025
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I grew up watching a lot of the movies you’ve mentioned, huge lonesome dove fan. Never have seen the return. I’ll have to watch it. As far as newer movies go, The Highway Men is the best I’ve seen in a long time. There’s even a YouTube video you can find where the armorer talks about making the movie and all the guns he used.
November 2, 2009
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I forgot about “The Man From Laramie”. That is an original Henry used in that movie. There are probably several others, but I’m old and can’t remember.
July 3, 2020
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I still enjoy watching Winchester ’73…. pretty much anything else with Jimmy Stewart wearing a cowboy hat. Side note: I picked up an original 1950 Winchester ’73 movie poster a few years back… it was for the Argentina release. Interestingly, this promotion poster focused on “Lola Manners” ie: Shelly Winters and “High Spade Frankie Wilson” ie: Millard Mitchell rather than on Jimmy Stewart or the ’73 rifle.
November 9, 2008
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An old Robert Taylor movie “The Last Hunt” is cool, he’s a Buffalo, Hunter with a nickel plated 1876, pours water down the barrel to cool as they are shooting hundreds of buff and in the end he dies frozen to tree with his 76 in hand
March 6, 2011
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Nevada Paul said
I tried years ago to research the provenance of the SAA used in the Shootist. At least one source claimed that they were Cimmaron clones, while others said they were genuine Colt SAA. Not sure the Hollywood folks would know or appreciate the difference.
Paul
Wayne’s guns in the Shootist were original Great Westerns, which he owned and chose to use in the movie. He said he colored the ivory grips with tea. If you look at pictures of the guns you can see the yellow color of the ivory grips is not natural.
June 12, 2013
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I just watched a movie with Richard Widmark. Opening said Arizona Territory 1873. He played a white man raised by Cheyenne tribe and saves members of wagon train. All rifles were winchester Model 1892’s !
March 6, 2011
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antler1 said
I just watched a movie with Richard Widmark. Opening said Arizona Territory 1873. He played a white man raised by Cheyenne tribe and saves members of wagon train. All rifles were winchester Model 1892’s !
When they try for realism, they take the forearms of those 1892s off to make them look like fantasy Henrys. Or at least older rifles. A guy at a gun show here had a couple dozen beat up 1892s with the forearms removed he bought from a prop house.
November 7, 2015
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wolfbait said
antler1 said
I just watched a movie with Richard Widmark. Opening said Arizona Territory 1873. He played a white man raised by Cheyenne tribe and saves members of wagon train. All rifles were winchester Model 1892’s !
When they try for realism, they take the forearms of those 1892s off to make them look like fantasy Henrys. Or at least older rifles. A guy at a gun show here had a couple dozen beat up 1892s with the forearms removed he bought from a prop house.
Sounds like one of the rifles used in “Streets of Laredo” where Pea Eye uses it in the early stages of a gunfight with Joey Garza. A Henry of 1866 might have been correct but it looked like one of those guns you saw at the show.
Mike
March 20, 2010
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win4575 said
I forgot about “The Man From Laramie”. That is an original Henry used in that movie. There are probably several others, but I’m old and can’t remember.
Fort Dobbs with Clint Walker and Brian Keith has several original Henry rifles, but when the actual shooting is done, they are using stripped 1892’s
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