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Hi Steve
What happened to the bolt handle on that M1910? It seems to be missing in action.
Bert H. said
steve004 said
Chuck said
Oh my, what a confession.
Yes indeed. But I would have fallen over had he listed a Marlin
I have never owned one… nor do I ever plan to
I had one once. Traded it for a Colt. The Marlin was the only rifle in 30 WCF that I have owned. Really high condition too. Bert helped me buy a bolt assembly for it just to rob the firing pin. Of course this one was broken too. Found out they still use the same firing pin today. Anyone need a Model 93 bolt?
kevindpm61 said
Hi SteveWhat happened to the bolt handle on that M1910? It seems to be missing in action.
Kevin –
Before I forget (and getting back to the topic of Winchester) what happened with the rifle that was the topic or your first post? Did you get it?
Back to my M-10, the bolt is there! And it’s in plain sight, just not from the angle I am showing. This is a Ross M-10, .280 Ross, as refined by James Woodward & Sons. One of the refinements is the conversion to a left-hand bolt. The photos below will tell the story:
Steve
That is a very interesting Ross! Do you own it? Being a righty, I never really give the lefties much thought. Although, My daughter and one son are left eye dominant and left-handed.
I have not purchased the rifle yet. The seller sent it out to have it evaluated for functional issues. They will contact me when they get information. I’m really chomping at the bit to purchase this rifle.
Bottom line is that this rifle is an 1883 Winchester Hotchkiss Fancy Grade Sporting Rifle. According to Jim Curlovic on the WACA, it is one of only 28 Fancy Winchester Hotchkiss rifles made. This rifle is going to need work to get back to her former glory, but I’m willing to do whatever needs to be done to save it.
I’m keeping in touch with the seller and I’m trying to show restraint but I’m very anxious. I’m sure that the seller doesn’t know the full significance of the rifle. I hope that I can seal the deal and start a thread about her.
kevindpm61 said
SteveThat is a very interesting Ross! Do you own it? Being a righty, I never really give the lefties much thought. Although, My daughter and one son are left eye dominant and left-handed.
I have not purchased the rifle yet. The seller sent it out to have it evaluated for functional issues. They will contact me when they get information. I’m really chomping at the bit to purchase this rifle.
Bottom line is that this rifle is an 1883 Winchester Hotchkiss Fancy Grade Sporting Rifle. According to Jim Curlovic on the WACA, it is one of only 28 Fancy Winchester Hotchkiss rifles made. This rifle is going to need work to get back to her former glory, but I’m willing to do whatever needs to be done to save it.
I’m keeping in touch with the seller and I’m trying to show restraint but I’m very anxious. I’m sure that the seller doesn’t know the full significance of the rifle. I hope that I can seal the deal and start a thread about her.
Kevin –
Yes, I do own this Ross. I’m not a lefty, but I bought it as a collector item.
Thanks for the information on the rifle you are pursuing. I’ve never owned a Hotchkiss, but a fancy grade sporting rifle would be very appealing. I hope it works out for you. Keep us posted.
I will definitely keep you all posted. The modifications to the Ross are interesting. How’s the bore condition? Have you taken it to the range?
kevindpm61 said
I will definitely keep you all posted. The modifications to the Ross are interesting. How’s the bore condition? Have you taken it to the range?
I recall the bore is nice, but I have not taken it to the range. I load for the .280 Ross but I have only fired a fraction of the .280’s I have.
I enjoy Ross and other vintage bolt action rifles that were refined by various British gunmakers. I have a Scotch Deerstalker that was refined by Westley Richards. The Scotch Deerstalker is my favorite Ross sporter. It was built on the M1905 action but has the multi-lug bolt head.
I’ve seen pics of the Deerstalker. Very nice rifles. It’s great to meet a fellow vintage hunting rifle aficionado. I’m always amazed at the craftsmanship that went into construction of these old rifles. They make me feel happy whenever I take them out for deer season. Here are pictures of my Remington-Lee.
Kevin –
Very nice rifles. I was hoping your would post a photo of your Gibbs rifle. I admire the hunting you have been able to with your rifles.
I have quite a fondness for vintage bolt action rifles. I have this one here that reminds me of your Gibbs rifle:
That’s a neat Ross. What’s the history of it? English built?
My Gibbs is a great rifle, and she is very accurate. I only paid $900 for it, and it lingered for sale for some time. The barrel is long but needed to keep the carry point centered in front of the magazine.
He’s the buck I took last year. The one antler broke off after it rolled down the mountain after it was shot.
Kevin –
NICE deer/gun photo.
My rifle if known as as a M1901 Ross, but it was completely made by Charles Lancaster. It is marked on the receiver side as pictured below. I have a certificate based on entries in the original Lancaster ledger which lists this rifle by serial number and lists the specifications such as chambering, barrel length, sights… even lists who it was made for. Charles Ross didn’t even have a factory build up in Canada when this rifle was made.
Thanks for sharing some of your Ross collection with me. Did you find your rifles in the states, or have you purchased them from abroad? Just when I think that I am satisfied with my collection, I stumble upon something that sparks my interest. Currently, I’m working on a Swedish rolling block that was made in 1875 and converted to 5x58R. It was then sporterized and sold to the Swedes. The bore is excellent, and she shoots accurately. I’m in the process of restocking her look like a proper sporting rifle. I intend to have the receiver and trigger guard color case hardened while I rust blue the barrel and try my hand at pouring a pewter forearm tip.
Next year, I think that I will use my 256 Newton and my 280 Ross for rifle season. My theme will be vintage 3,000 fps rifles.
I’ve purchased them here in the States.
When I look at these vintage bolt actions, it makes me wonder to what extant Winchester’s R&D staff had examples to examine and ponder. Winchester ultimately made their way into the bolt action centerfire sporting rifle market – and there must have been years of research and thought that preceded that. I like to picture several employees sitting around working different rifle actions, assessing stock design, balance etc., and discussing what would appeal to their customers and what their niche might be.
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