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February 17, 2022
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I am looking to see when the 33wcf was introduced. I know 1902 is the year, looking for the month. I also am looking to date an 1886 in 33, serial number 128934. Letter for it does not list application date just warehouse date. hoping Bert might pick up on this.
April 15, 2005
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Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.
There are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?
Bert
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February 17, 2022
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Bert the letter says December 24 1903. Thanks for the info.
Bert H. said rnPer John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.rnrnThere are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?rnrnBertrn rn
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they areBert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.There are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?
Bert
So i just picked up a model 86 lightweight take down in 33 wcf and the serial number is 125363. I cant find to much info on it
April 15, 2005
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Mike said
Bert H. said rnPer John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.rnrnThere are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?rnrnBertrn rn
Model 1886 s/n 128934 was received in the warehouse December 24th, 1903.
Bert
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April 15, 2005
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Mike said
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.
There are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?
Bert
So i just picked up a model 86 lightweight take down in 33 wcf and the serial number is 125363. I cant find to much info on it
I do not have any information for s/n 125363 at this time.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Mike said
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.
There are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?
Bert
So i just picked up a model 86 lightweight take down in 33 wcf and the serial number is 125363. I cant find to much info on it
I do not have any information for s/n 125363 at this time.
Bert
Im confused because it says the earliest s/n for the 33 take downs are 125403-125406 but mine seems to have a 1901 s/n but they wernt released till 1902?
April 15, 2005
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Mike said
Bert H. said
Mike said
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.
There are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?
Bert
So i just picked up a model 86 lightweight take down in 33 wcf and the serial number is 125363. I cant find to much info on it
I do not have any information for s/n 125363 at this time.
Bert
Im confused because it says the earliest s/n for the 33 take downs are 125403-125406 but mine seems to have a 1901 s/n but they wernt released till 1902?
Model 1886 with s/n 125363 was assembled until sometime after April 3rd, 1902. Winchester did not assemble the serial numbered receiver frames in numerical order. If you want to know the exact date it was received in the warehouse, contact the CFM records office and obtain a factory letter.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Mike said
Bert H. said
Mike said
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are
Bert H. said
Per John Madl’s research, serial number 125403 and 125406 were received in the warehouse on April 3rd, 1902 and they are the earliest known in 33 WCF. There are rifles with lower serial numbers that letter as 33 WCF, but they were all received in the warehouse after April 3rd, 1902.
There are no PR records after serial number 120795 (December 26th, 1899). For serial numbers 120796 – 145900 the only dates available are the Received in warehouse and Shipped (sold) dates. What is the Received in warehouse date for S/N 128934 ?
Bert
So i just picked up a model 86 lightweight take down in 33 wcf and the serial number is 125363. I cant find to much info on it
I do not have any information for s/n 125363 at this time.
Bert
Im confused because it says the earliest s/n for the 33 take downs are 125403-125406 but mine seems to have a 1901 s/n but they wernt released till 1902?
Model 1886 with s/n 125363 was assembled until sometime after April 3rd, 1902. Winchester did not assemble the serial numbered receiver frames in numerical order. If you want to know the exact date it was received in the warehouse, contact the CFM records office and obtain a factory letter.
Bert
Ahhh gotcha. Thank you for the information!!
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