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February 4, 2007
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I would like to see the BATF move the antique firearms date from 1898 to 1940 or later. RRM
November 9, 2008
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That would be Great! Maybe even to 1945 to include WW2 guns
April 15, 2005
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My proposal would be a sliding 100-year year scale similar to the 50-year rule used to define most Curio & Relic firearms.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
February 17, 2022
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Bert H. said
My proposal would be a sliding 100-year year scale similar to the 50-year rule used to define most Curio & Relic firearms.Bert
I like that idea.
February 4, 2007
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Maybe we could get one of Trumps kids to put a bug in the old man’s ear. RRM
March 31, 2009
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March 31, 2009
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Sorry, I guess you have to be a Member to get the audio? But Erik Cortina interviewed Eric Trump who is an avid shooter. Almost a 1 1/2 hour interview. I’m sure he has been in his Dad’s ear.
September 22, 2011
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Rat Rod Mac said
I would like to see the BATF move the antique firearms date from 1898 to 1940 or later. RRM
Absolutely and positively! It’s what I would like to see as well.
But you have to understand why 1898 was selected to know why it is unlikely to happen.
Back in 1998, I had hoped a sliding scale would be instituted, reasoning that 100 years is surely long enough. I almost wrote my Congressman about it and then reasoned what if my Congressman isn’t aware of any of this at all, determines it’s a loophole and does away with it for good. And so I didn’t. Best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Congress in 1968 determined that antique wasn’t just 70 years previously, which I originally thought, but that the Mauser 1898 action isn’t quaint and antique, and thus an antique can only be up until previous to when that action existed—e.g., pre 1898. At the time this law was passed, there was a cleric error, making 1898 production firearms antique instead of this being pre 1898. Which is why an 1898 Mauser rifle manufactured in 1898 commands a hefty premium.
And also, if there was a sliding scale of 100 years, someday that AR 15 will be a Century old and capable of significant destruction. But not quaint and nostalgic.
November 27, 2022
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Rat Rod Mac said
I would like to see the BATF move the antique firearms date from 1898 to 1940 or later. RRM
I have thought this for years!
December 21, 2006
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I think the sliding scale would be a helluva plan, however it’s only common sense and it’s very difficult to find a single politician, let alone a group of ’em with any of that. By time the AR15’s are 100 years old they will be so outdated and expensive, that no assassin would bother with one when he could go buy something way more effective for 1/10 the cost. You know kinda like the Gatling Gun, or a Thompson, it was a weapon of mass destruction in it’s day but now , even though very capable, not so much. And the cost well that’s another story. A few years ago We had a guy invade Parliament in Canada with a 1894 Winchester, 38-55, if I remember correctly. All He did was get Himself Killed by a security guard with pistol.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
March 14, 2022
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Just to follow up on Henry’s reply. The RCMP confirmed the firearm involved was a Winchester lever action 30-30 which the shooter fired three shots at the National War Memorial in Ottawa: two at Cpl. Nathan Cirillo standing vigil and one at the other soldier in the honour guard. Cirillo, a military veteran in his late 20’s, and volunteering, was killed. The investigation at the time indicated preliminary results the shooter must have obtained his rifle either by stealing it, buying it on the black market, or been given the rifle, either by someone unaware of his motives or an accomplice.
Although very tragic and sad, it was a pre planned deliberate act and Winchester/lever Collectors in Canada were a bit nervous after, concerning the govts possible reaction to the incident.
Rick C
September 22, 2011
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There was an elderly man who shot a guard, IIRC, at the U.S. Capitol using an antique Winchester 1890 rifle that had been his father’s, maybe 20 years ago. I thought, there goes the pre 1899 exemption.
Y’all want to expand it, maybe we don’t draw attention to it. What’s to prevent Congress eliminating it or an executive order by a Democrat President?
We won’t be around to see it, but I can all but guarantee you a 100+ year old AR 15 will be used in a criminal fashion decades from now.
If ANTIQUE firearms no longer are considered ANTIQUES and not firearms, there goes that premium!
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