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Help needed to ID a stamp: 1873 Carbine with Chilean Military history

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November 3, 2024 - 1:50 am

Mr. Ludovic Baule sent a email in French. Here is the Translation. He is trying to find out what the “M.Jip” stamp on the right side of the stock means. I’ve search and can’t find it. I would think it might of been used on other models.

Bob

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I live in France and I own an 1873 Winchester rifle that would have belonged to the Chilean army during the Pacific War in 1879 but with a particular inscription that I do not know.

That’s why I’m contacting you.

Its serial number is unfortunately illegible but I was able to date this weapon between 1879 and 1881 thanks to its characteristics.

On the left side of the stock, it is difficult to make out the coat of arms of Chile: a shield with a star and the abbreviation “M del E” for “Maestranza del Ejercito” (emblem on the left in the photo of the different emblems of the military arms of Chile).

It is on the right side that there is the unknown emblem: “M. JiP.” surmounted by a star and framed by a kind of star as well.

This is the 2nd time I see this inscription on an 1873 Winchester: the other rifle was from 1879 and had all the markings identically.

So what do these abbreviations mean?

Is it a regiment of the Chilean army or a special administrative service?

These initials may not have been made during the War of the Pacific, but perhaps after his military life and his destocking of the “Maestranza del Ejército”?

Thank you in advance.

Mr Ludovic BAULE

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November 8, 2024 - 6:44 am

Hello everyone, I am the owner of this Winchester.  
I asked different people directly in Chile through Facebook and at Chilean military museums to find out what this emblem could correspond to but I only got two answers telling me that they didn't know!
Isn't there a specialist on the 1873 carbines used in South America on this famous forum? Thanks to everyone.

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November 8, 2024 - 3:59 pm

If it was a US military we would have that information since most of the collectors are in the US and most of them collect guns with US history and some in other countries so there is limited knowledge about some foreign countries. I was riding to Tulsa with a gunsmith buddy and showed him the pictures and he said the wood is Fruitwood but didn’t recognize the stamp.

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November 8, 2024 - 4:02 pm

Thank you Bob !

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