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Recently purchased a membership to gather more info about the Winchesters that I adore so much. I’m not a collector but more of a guy that purchases old guns (model 94s) not for their value but more for where and what have you been doing all your life factor. I have 5 daughters so I slowly purchased 5 to give each of them a gun from the 1800s, something magical about holding a carbine in your hands from a period of time so different from today and hope they feel the magic too. Two of them carbines bumped out of the 1800s using the date of manufacture provided from this site.  I find I’m still looking for old rifles or carbines, starting to become a disease. One of my daughters is getting the bug too, she is always on the look for a old model 94. after reading in here for a while I’m a little over whelmed at how little I really know, but thanks to a guy sending me over here to learn [George]I now Know I a little more than I did prior, thanks

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Welcome to our obsession.  You’ll find lots of opinions here but, more importantly, an incredible amount of knowledge that the members will generously share.

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Interesting note there was 1500 employees working at Winchester in 1895, that works out to 67 model 94 being built every workday from 1895 to 1900, not counting any other model.

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highnwild said
Interesting note there was 1500 employees working at Winchester in 1895, that works out to 67 model 94 being built every workday from 1895 to 1900, not counting any other model.  

Dang It!  HnW.  I have been slowing down on purchasing ’94’s.  But with this new information, you’ve just mapped out a new quest–to accumulate a day’s tally of old ’94’s.

Or. . . perhaps I should be shouting:  Thank you, HnW!  Whoopee!  Let’s go shopping!

Five daughters and a Winchester for each; you are a great Father.

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highnwild said
Interesting note there was 1500 employees working at Winchester in 1895, that works out to 67 model 94 being built every workday from 1895 to 1900, not counting any other model.  

Hmmm… maybe I need to go back to school and learn that “new” math being taught.  That stated, if I use the old tried & true math equations, your production number is too high.

Let me set the premise for my computation of what I believe the actual production ratio;

1.  Production of the Model 1894 officially began on September 20th, 1894, leaving 103 possible work days remaining in that year.

2.  For the years 1895 to 1900 (but not including 1900), there were 1,826 additional possible work days (the Winchester factory worked 7-days/week based on the factory warehouse records).

3.  The maximum total number of works days pre-1900 was therefore 1,929 days.

4.  The total recorded production for the Model 1894 from September 20th, 1894 to December 31st, 1899 was 80,148 (serialized receivers… undoubtedly, there were at least a few hundred less that were fully assembled and sent to the warehouse).

If you divide the total production (80,148) by the total number of days (1,929), that comes out to just 41.5 (average) Model 1894s per day (using the 7-day work week).

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FromTheWoods said 

Dang It!  HnW.  I have been slowing down on purchasing ’94’s.  But with this new information, you’ve just mapped out a new quest–to accumulate a day’s tally of old ’94’s.

Or. . . perhaps I should be shouting:  Thank you, HnW!  Whoopee!  Let’s go shopping!

Five daughters and a Winchester for each; you are a great Father.  

I just saved you a pile of $$$$ !

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That’s why I called this thread getting schooled, thanks guys I already know that the info is priceless around here. I’m still close to the same number as you but I used 5 days a week versus 7 days, still works out.

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Based on factory record (Polishing Room and warehouse ledgers), Winchester’s factory management had people working 7-days a week. I suspect that it was at least 2 shifts per day.

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Bert H. said

I just saved you a pile of $$$$ !

Bert  

Excellent!  And the cost of the extra safe too!

Hmmmm. . . I wonder what I could spend that $100,000+ on? . . .  I know!  Winchesters!  

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