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January 27, 1992
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I have an 1886 Carbine, Ser. #28469 with the fulll length forearm. The caliber is 45/90 WCF. It has 1/2 Nickel finish (which has mostly been cleaned off). My records show that only 941 Carbines were 45/90, only 319 had the long forearm wood and only 70 had the 1/2 Nickle finish. I do not remember where these “facts” came from. Would anyone know where I might verify or get corrected information concerning these descriptions? I am planning to sell this item and do not want to misrepresent any information. Thanks for your consideration. RDB
May 2, 2009
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RDB,
John Madl did the Ledger research. He put out a book and I think someone here will have it and confirm the numbers.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-research-surveys/1886-research/
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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January 27, 1992
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Thank you. If I just knew how to acquire that information. RDB
April 15, 2005
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rogertherelic said
Thank you. If I just knew how to acquire that information. RDB
The information you seek was published in the Summer 2018 edition of the Winchester Collector magazine… Summer 2018 (winchestercollector.org)
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
January 27, 1992
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THANK YOU, Bert! Again, You da MAN!!! I do have that Magazine. It’s my memory I am missing. 
RDB
November 19, 2006
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Sure would be nice to see photos of this one…
December 9, 2002
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Can’t wait either!
Antonio
January 27, 1992
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I have posted the 1886 Carbine on the “Swap Meet” section. I don’t seem to have the ability to post the description and price in the foremat as I would like it showm. It’s $9,100 plus shipping. Thanks for looking. RDB
July 31, 2005
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It’s interesting your early 1886 carbine has a sporting leaf rear sight marked 1873. I didn’t expect that. The Model 1876 carbines generally had the 1876 marked sporting leaf rear sight with range marks from 2 to 10.
See below.
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January 27, 1992
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That’s the way it came. I found in the Arthur Pirkle Book, “The Models of 1886 and 1892”, on page 95 that the sights had the ‘1873’ mark designating the sight’s year of introduction. If the sight is incorrect it is something I am not aware of. I believe the “carbine” sight is shorter than the “rifle” sporting sight This is the only ‘full stock’ 1886 Carbine I have ever seen in person. If it is not correct I am unaware of that fact. I am still learning. RDB
November 9, 2008
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Bill Hockett said
It’s interesting your early 1886 carbine has a sporting leaf rear sight marked 1873. I didn’t expect that. The Model 1876 carbines generally had the 1876 marked sporting leaf rear sight with range marks from 2 to 10.See below.
The sight pictured is not a sporting leaf, it is an early 44a carbine sight and could have been on that early 1886 carbine. Sporting leaf sights were usually rifles 1876, 1886, Hotchkiss sporting rifles. The 42a is longer and the stop screw is in the middle and point of sight is longer. Here are 2, right early 1876, left later unmarked 
July 31, 2005
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CJ57, you are correct. The sight on Roger’s 1886 carbine is the Winchester carbine sight. The one on his carbine is marked 1873 (some were not marked) and has graduations from 2-9.
I didn’t mean to imply anything was wrong with this gun. I just thought it unusual to have the carbine sight normally associated with 1866 and 1873 carbines when the standard sight for the 1876 carbines was the sporting leaf rear sight with graduations from 2-10. I would expect that 1886 carbines would follow a similar pattern.
Here is a photo of an 1876 carbine and it has the sporting leaf rear sight. More Winchester mysteries.
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