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I’d think Flayderman’s Guide to Antique American Firearms would be one of the must-haves.

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Best book for an aspiring collector is probably a well-backed checkbook to build a reference library and a collection of vintage Winchesters. In spite of several errors that have come to light since it was published I think Madis’ book is still the one to start with. Just as important is the Red Book by Larry Shennum and our own Bert Hartman. It’s more than a value guide, it’s a valuable tool for identifying collectible Winchesters. After that it’s where your interests take you. As a novice collector a few of my reference books have paid for themselves easily in helping to identify sleeper collectible Winchesters and avoid non-original specimens.

 

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The two books Mike mentioned are a must have… but in the meantime, download the kindle version of “Winchester Model 94- A Century of Craftsmanship- 2nd Edition” by Robert C Renneberg and start reading today….

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Best book for an aspiring collector is probably a well-backed checkbook to build a reference library and a collection of vintage Winchesters. In spite of several errors that have come to light since it was published I think Madis’ book is still the one to start with. Just as important is the Red Book by Larry Shennum and our own Bert Hartman. It’s more than a value guide, it’s a valuable tool for identifying collectible Winchesters. After that it’s where your interests take you. As a novice collector a few of my reference books have paid for themselves easily in helping to identify sleeper collectible Winchesters and avoid non-original specimens.

 

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  Well said, can’t improve on that advice. When you zero in on a specific model of interest then buy the books for that model and read before using the check book. A book is the cheapest way of gaining knowledge! T/R

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Thank you for the information. I will be purchasing some books this weekend.

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Here is most of the Winchester Books I have.

Name Author
One Hundred Years of Winchester Cartridge Boxes 1856 to 1956 Ray T. Giles and Daniel L. Shuey
Standard Catalog of Winchester – Comprehensive Price Guide David D. Kowalski w/Tom Webster,
  Ned Schwing, Ray Giles, Dan Shuey, Phil White
WRA Co. Headstamped Cartridges and Their Variations Vol. I Daniel L. Shuey 
WRA Co. Headstamped Cartridges and Their Variations Vol. II Daniel L. Shuey 
Winchester Two Piece 22 Boxes 1873 to 1927 Richard Raines, Dan Shuey
The Story of Benjamin Tyler Henry and His Famed Repeating Rifle Les Quick
The Historic Henry Rifle Wiley Sword
The Winchester Model 1876 “Centennial” Rifle Herbert G. House
The Winchester Single Shot Vol. I John Campell
The Winchester Single Shot Vol. II John Campell
Winchester Slide Action Rifles Vol. I Model 1890 and Model 1906 Ned Schwing and Dave Kidd
Winchester Model 94 The First 100 Years Robert C. Renneberg
Winchester Shotguns & Shotshells From the Hammer Double to the n/a
Model 59 Ronald Stadt
The Winchester Lever Legacy Williamson
Winchester Repeating Arms Co. It’s History & Development n/a
From 1865 to 1981 Herbert G. House
The Winchester Book Madis
Winchester an American Legend R. L. Wilson
Winchester Shotguns Dennis Alder, Foreward by R. L. Wilson
The Winchester Handbook Madis
The Sight Book Madis
Winchester Repeating Arms Catalog May 1st, 1878 Repo
Winchester Repeating Arms Catalog No. 58 December 1896 Repo
Winchester Lever Action Repeating Firearms.Vol. I The Models of n/a
1866, 1873 & 1876. Arthur Pirkle
Winchester Lever Action Repeating Firearms.Vol. II The Models of n/a
1886 & 1892 Arthur Pirkle
Winchester Lever Action Repeating Firearms.Vol. III The Models of n/a
1894 & 1895 Arthur Pirkle
US M1 Carbines – Wartime Production Craig Riesch
The M1 Garand 1936 to 1957 Joe Poyer & Craig Riesch
Winchester Engraving R. L. Wilson
Winchester In The Service Canfield
The Winchester Lee Navy Rifle Eugene Myszkowski
The M1 Garand – Complete Assembly Guide Walt Kuleck and Clint McKee
The M1 Carbine Owner’s Guide Larry L. Ruth and Scott A. Duff
Winchester Dates of Manufacture 1849 – 1984 Madis
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Any recommendations for a comprehensive book on model 1892?

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Any recommendations for a comprehensive book on model 1892?  

Until Michael (2bit) writes one, it does not exist.  I am working on a reference book that will detail the follow-on variation models, the Model 53 and Model 65.

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I have found this book to be a good investment if you are a  lever Winchester fan. as well as the Madis books.

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 That’s my kind of book. T/R

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 That’s my kind of book. T/R  

If you use the loading data start a little lower and work up.  Some of his loads are on the hot side.  Actually starting low and working up should always be done.

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 It says in his preface that “My personal documented experiences include firing 750,000 rounds and maintaining a journal of these firings.” If Clyde Williamson can shoot 750,000 rounds I can shoot my guns once in a while, but not as “hot”. T/R

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TR, these guns were made to shoot and I try to shoot them all but only once in awhile.

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TR, these guns were made to shoot and I try to shoot them all but only once in awhile.  

  If my math is correct, 750,000 rounds is 100 rounds every day for 20 years 200 days, not including leap year. At 25 grains per round that’s 2678 pounds of powder. At 15 grains per round that’s 1607 pounds of powder. Clyde was not once in a while like me. T/R

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antler1 said
Any recommendations for a comprehensive book on model 1892?  

I will be glad to answer any questions in the interim!!

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