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September 28, 2016
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I’ve never seen them before, anyone know? Fleshette’s, duplex loads with buckshot, something else……?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/857419161
Erin
March 20, 2010
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Seems like there is some speculation about their purpose on another forum.
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/blitz-cartridges/16813/17
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June 5, 2015
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There’s a Blitz gun used to put down cattle.
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November 1, 2013
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Vince said
There’s a Blitz gun used to put down cattle.
But the cartridges for those are pistol size, since they only drive a bolt. The packaging isn’t necessarily military–could be intended for some industrial purpose.
September 28, 2016
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Dug around on different forums and there seems to be no for sure answer. Speculation as to noise makers to keep birds away from airstrips during WWll. More speculation as to propellant cartridges for shooting grappling hooks, etc. and more speculation for testing aircraft propellers, with the cartridges used to shoot sand and pebbles at propellers to see how the props held up on dirt runways. One thing for sure is they were blank shells with only powder and wads.
Erin
November 1, 2013
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Erin Grivicich said
More speculation as to propellant cartridges for shooting grappling hooks, etc. and more speculation for testing aircraft propellers, with the cartridges used to shoot sand and pebbles at propellers to see how the props held up on dirt runways.
I know that some WW II radial aircraft engines were started by means of a “cartridge” that turned the engine over fast enough for the magneto to fire, but I’ve never seen a description of the device, except that spare cartridges was small enough to carry within the aircraft. Shooting sand at props sounds like nonsense to me.
September 11, 2008
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I know that some WW II radial aircraft engines were started by means of a “cartridge” that turned the engine over fast enough for the magneto to fire, but I’ve never seen a description of the device, except that spare cartridges was small enough to carry within the aircraft.
Like in “The Flight of the Phoenix” with James Stewart?
Blitz = lightning
Maybe a very early dazzling grenade?
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March 20, 2009
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steff said
I know that some WW II radial aircraft engines were started by means of a “cartridge” that turned the engine over fast enough for the magneto to fire, but I’ve never seen a description of the device, except that spare cartridges was small enough to carry within the aircraft.
Like in “The Flight of the Phoenix” with James Stewart?
Blitz = lightning
Maybe a very early dazzling grenade?
Greetings from Germany
Stefan
Stefan,
That is such a good movie!!
Michael
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March 31, 2009
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Erin Grivicich said
I’ve never seen them before, anyone know? Fleshette’s, duplex loads with buckshot, something else……?https://www.gunbroker.com/item/857419161
Erin
I left a message with my Military collector friend. Speaking of duplex loads do you know anyone that has a 22/06 duplex load for sale? These were made by Winchester in either 1956 or 1957 for the Garand under the Salvo project.
March 31, 2009
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Chuck said
I left a message with my Military collector friend. Speaking of duplex loads do you know anyone that has a 22/06 duplex load for sale? These were made by Winchester in either 1956 or 1957 for the Garand under the Salvo project.
My friend does not know what these are but he says if they were issued to the Military there would be a lot number on the box. A web search really doesn’t help. They made this for tripod too as opposed to shoulder. Pictures show these look like shotgun shells but filled with what?? Some think these were used during WWII? Scaring birds from runways?
September 28, 2016
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Chuck said
My friend does not know what these are but he says if they were issued to the Military there would be a lot number on the box. A web search really doesn’t help. They made this for tripod too as opposed to shoulder. Pictures show these look like shotgun shells but filled with what?? Some think these were used during WWII? Scaring birds from runways?
Chuck,
If you follow the link Chris posted, someone tore one apart. It is just powder,(lots of it) with cardboard fillers.
Erin
November 26, 2014
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It’s seems it is used to scare off birds. A fellow collector did some research and found info in Issue No. 435 of the IAA Journal. Seems the RAF ordered this in three different weights – Light, Medium and Heavy. The Light and Medium loads are used with a shoulder gun. The Heavy loads are used in a tripod gun and the Heavy load boxes are marked for such use with the tripod gun. The top wad on the Heavy load is marked 65, the Medium load 45, and the Light loads has no marking. They have multiple felt and cardboard wads in them.
