Cilrah said

mrcvs said

Cilrah said

Nevada Paul said

Ben said

I live in Washington… the new laws for us are very restrictive.  Here’s what they have established:  Buying any handgun, long gun, shotgun… (“assault” weapons are not allowed… you need to get the list if you are not familiar with what they have determined is an “assault” weapon.  Any purchase/trade must be shipped back to Washington by the dealer to your receiving FFL in Washington if you are not an FFL holder.  You will then have a three week wait to receive your new toy after you fill out the paperwork.   If you have a C&R license… you may purchase any handgun, long gun or shotgun (assault weapon’s as defined by Washington law excluded) as long as the weapon meets the C&R requirements (over 50 years old)…  As far as selling/trading, you must do so thru an FFL holder at the show.  The current situation for those of us in Washington doesn’t look to improve with the upcoming election either… the Dems have a strangle hold on this state…

  

Ben, I’m just curious about those Washington State laws. Are you saying that you must go through an FFL holder for the sale of any personally owned firearm, whether or not that transaction occurs in Washington State?

For example, could you legally sell one of your personal firearms to another individual, in another state (where the transfer is otherwise legal), without benefit of FFL and 4473 as long as the ‘buyer’ was legally entitled to buy and possess the gun?  It is difficult to imagine that a state law could restrict individual rights to that extent.

Paul

  

Yes Paul it’s true. If i buy a gun today i need to go through a state police background check. If i buy a gun a day after that check comes back i have to go through another background check. I also have a 10 business day (not 3 week) waiting period before I can get the gun from my FFL licensee. If i buy a gun in Wyoming i have to have it sent to my FFL guy, i can’t legally bring it back to Washington myself. 

I moved to Washington this time last year from Missouri. Went from one of the least restrictive states to one of the most restrictive states, my heads still spinning over the gun laws here. Having a concealed carry permit in this state is a joke and allows you nothing when purchasing any kind of firearm. C&R laws means practically nothing in this state either.  

Why would one ever move to such a repressive state, other than if one couldn’t find decent employment elsewhere?

I understand if one is firmly planted there and laws change over time, but if there are choices as to potential states to move from—barring family concerns— I would seek out a friendlier state.

  

mrcvs

We moved here because this is where our kids and grandkids live. We both retired from Ft Lewis, our kids stayed here and we moved to Arizona, good gun laws, then we moved to Missouri, even better gun laws. We missed the family so we moved back to Washington. I’ve come to realized it’s not even worth having an AR in this state when I can just collect Winchester’s. Especially with the history of guns in my family history. I got into Ancestry.com for a while and found out most my male ancestors in Connecticut where I grew up worked somehow in gun manufacturing. My aunt worked her entire career at the Winchester Gun Museum from the day it open until it moved to Cody. My brother worked at Charter Arms, and I joined the army where i got to play with plenty fun weapons

Sorry I got a little of subject there

Well, you moved for family reasons.  A move that makes complete sense.

Why did you leave Connecticut?  I too, am from there.  I left due to the complete inability to earn more than minimum wage with a college degree—and this was over 3 decades ago now.

Plus, it’s sad that a state that was where the gun making industry in this country originated, largely, is so rabidly anti 2 A and blue now.  It’s sad they turn their back on their firearms heritage when the reverse should be true.

clarence said

Bill Yadlosky said

IMHO; If you don’t already follow him, check out Washington Gun Law on you tube. He is a lawyer in Washington state but has excellent coverage of the ever-changing firearm issues across the country & follows all the pending lawsuits & appeals. He is very good & easy to understand & explains what is going on in detail in layman’s terms (more or less).  

Other states have limited waiting periods, like 3 or 5 days, but this one in WA is so crazy over the top extreme that it constitutes a gross infringement of the 2A.  No hope of justice in Dem-controlled state courts, needless to say, but if the law was appealed to the SC, as NYSRPA did the NY Sullivan Law, I can’t believe the WA law wouldn’t be overturned as well; of course it would take several million in legal expenses.

Clarence,

There is lots of infringement upon the Second Amendment.  You are infringed upon every time you fill out a Form 4473.  And that’s just the icing on the cake.  As with so many other laws, it’s do what we say, even if not Constitutional.  And folks don’t seem to care anymore and what one is forced to do is often based upon the mindset of liberal politicians and not what is based upon Constitutional law.

Cilrah said

Chuck said

What are you bringing?  We all know Vinnie.  He is our club President.   If he says it’s OK it’s OK.  But, just because you can bring it in doesn’t mean you can sell it illegally.  That’s what this thread is about.  Legal sales and transport into another state.

Where in Ca. do you live.  I live in Orange County.

  

I’m bringing a Colt AR to either trade/sell at the show or sell to a dealer in WY. 

  

I don’t think AR’s are allowed?

Here in Kalifornia a lot of my C&R holder friends are giving them up.  They have to have a Federal and a state one.  The state restrictions have become so bad a C&R holder has been striped of many of the benefits.