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I believe I have a 1873 44 WCF and need more information about it. Ser# 64926. On the left side of the Stock is BOER WAR 4 22. 

20″ Barrel. I did post pic’s. Don’t know what happened. Will try again.

 

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Sounds like you may have an early 1873 carbine. No one can provide you further information without pictures. You can email them to me and I can post them for you.

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Here are your pictures. You have a 1892 carbine made in 1896. I cannot shed any light on the carving on the stock.

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The Boer war was in South Africa from about 1880 to 1915. 

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A very interesting carbine.

 

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Mark, is there a name that was scratched out? Just after the 2 there appears to be the letter ‘R’. Your pictures are too low resolution to tell. 

Can you please send me full high res images. And are there any other non factory markings on it? 

I have a good friend here that collects Boer War arms and a lot of them have names that can be traced. With a gun like that, the provenance is the key and a lot of history can be found. 

He did tell me that the odd Winchester was used in the Boer War. 

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Chris D said
Mark, is there a name that was scratched out? Just after the 2 there appears to be the letter ‘R’. Your pictures are too low resolution to tell. 
Can you please send me full high res images. And are there any other non factory markings on it? 
I have a good friend here that collects Boer War arms and a lot of them have names that can be traced. With a gun like that, the provenance is the key and a lot of history can be found. 
He did tell me that the odd Winchester was used in the Boer War. 
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  When I get back home, I’ll will look. 

When I get back home, I’ll will look.

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Hello,

I have previously seen that rifle for sale on Gunbroker out of Florence, Arizona during Dec 2016.  I would tend to be highly skeptical of the BOER WAR “tattoo” on the stock being any kind of authentic.  Did anyone during WW I stamp that on their rifle?  Or WW II, the Civil war, Revolutionary war etc?  This might be of interest to read:  https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-guns-of-the-boer-commandos/

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Very interesting information Michael! 

I surely would like to see the heading changed from 1873 to 1892!

Better pictures of the rifle wouldn’t bother me at all. As a matter of fact, I would like to see close up pics of the left side of the stock also! A magnifying glass and some close up handling and inspections of the markings on the stock, could indicate, or at least help to identify the intentions of a previous owner. This certainly wouldn’t be the first firearm we’ve seen misrepresented. 

A great article that I forgot about, in the Rifleman magazine.

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Chris D said
Mark, is there a name that was scratched out? Just after the 2 there appears to be the letter ‘R’. Your pictures are too low resolution to tell. 
Can you please send me full high res images. And are there any other non factory markings on it? 
I have a good friend here that collects Boer War arms and a lot of them have names that can be traced. With a gun like that, the provenance is the key and a lot of history can be found. 
He did tell me that the odd Winchester was used in the Boer War. 
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Not that i can see.

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Hello,
I have previously seen that rifle for sale on Gunbroker out of Florence, Arizona during Dec 2016.  I would tend to be highly skeptical of the BOER WAR “tattoo” on the stock being any kind of authentic.  Did anyone during WW I stamp that on their rifle?  Or WW II, the Civil war, Revolutionary war etc?  This might be of interest to read:  https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-guns-of-the-boer-commandos/
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FYI, I have never had that on Gunbroker. But thank you for your input.

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twobit said
Hello,
I have previously seen that rifle for sale on Gunbroker out of Florence, Arizona during Dec 2016.  I would tend to be highly skeptical of the BOER WAR “tattoo” on the stock being any kind of authentic.  Did anyone during WW I stamp that on their rifle?  Or WW II, the Civil war, Revolutionary war etc?  This might be of interest to read:  https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-guns-of-the-boer-commandos/
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FYI, I have never had that on Gunbroker. But thank you for your input.
  

I just thought that it may have been where you bought it from.  Or is changed hands between then and you.

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Very interesting information Michael! 
I surely would like to see the heading changed from 1873 to 1892!
Better pictures of the rifle wouldn’t bother me at all. As a matter of fact, I would like to see close up pics of the left side of the stock also! A magnifying glass and some close up handling and inspections of the markings on the stock, could indicate, or at least help to identify the intentions of a previous owner. This certainly wouldn’t be the first firearm we’ve seen misrepresented. 
A great article that I forgot about, in the Rifleman magazine.
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I said 1873, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for the comment. I will try to change it. To 1892.

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Lastgunshop,

Thanks for the correction, as no harm done here. 

Saddle Ring 1892’s are very desirable. If it were mine, I would try to figure out as much on the writing on the stock as possible also.

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Interestingly, Here is another BOER WAR marked rifle!   But VERY interestingly this rifle was manufactured 3 years AFTER the war!!   https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1139487113

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Here’s another…(1904)

https://www.icollector.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Saddle-Ring-Carbine-with-BOER-WAR-Marked-Stock_i24908199.  

There was a discussion regarding Boer War on this forum several years ago, cant find the link again.  

They dont appear to marked, British, Canadian, Orange Free State or South African Republic.  If at least two so marked fall outside the date range for the war (the GB and icollector carbines).  The “bitter enders” agreed to Treaty of Vereeniging to end the war in 1902, so were these Winchesters captured private firearms, or marked to memorialize the event, etc., any number of reasons could be made, but if marked to memorialize the war, why the rack number.  Whats also interesting is other Boer War firearms are not marked with “Boer War”, at least from what Ive found in a very limited search.   

The interesting thing about the gunbroker example is the wear on the right side of the carbine (receiver and buttstock).  It appears to have been wedged into something tight or against something where it rode to create that wear in the wood and blue.  

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Interestingly, Here is another BOER WAR marked rifle!   But VERY interestingly this rifle was manufactured 3 years AFTER the war!!  https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1139487113
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There were a lot of wars in South Africa.  The 3rd Boer war broke out in 1914.  The Maritz Rebellion.

 

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Here’s another…(1904)
https://www.icollector.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Saddle-Ring-Carbine-with-BOER-WAR-Marked-Stock_i24908199.  
There was a discussion regarding Boer War on this forum several years ago, cant find the link again.  
They dont appear to marked, British, Canadian, Orange Free State or South African Republic.  If at least two so marked fall outside the date range for the war (the GB and icollector carbines).  The “bitter enders” agreed to Treaty of Vereeniging to end the war in 1902, so were these Winchesters captured private firearms, or marked to memorialize the event, etc., any number of reasons could be made, but if marked to memorialize the war, why the rack number.  Whats also interesting is other Boer War firearms are not marked with “Boer War”, at least from what Ive found in a very limited search.   
The interesting thing about the gunbroker example is the wear on the right side of the carbine (receiver and buttstock).  It appears to have been wedged into something tight or against something where it rode to create that wear in the wood and blue.  
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Chris,

I can not get the link to actually link to anything.  I also tried doing a search on icollector for Boer War and nothing.

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Maybe this will work:

https://www.icollector.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Saddle-Ring-Carbine-with-BOER-WAR-Marked-Stock_i24908199

 

If that doesnt work, enter “Boer War marked Winchester” in a search, then go to images, you can follow to the website from there.  Unfortunately the images suck, and no photos of the right side of carbine. 

If there is any interest, here are a few other old forums:

https://www.angloboerwar.com/forum/2-introductions/25334-winchester-lever-action-magazine-rifles-of-the-boer-war

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/winchester-rifles-in-the-boer-wars-t25191.htmlhttps://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/winchester-rifles-in-the-boer-wars-t25191.html

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Maybe this will work:
https://www.icollector.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Saddle-Ring-Carbine-with-BOER-WAR-Marked-Stock_i24908199
 
If that doesnt work, enter “Boer War marked Winchester” in a search, then go to images, you can follow to the website from there.  Unfortunately the images suck, and no photos of the right side of carbine. 
  

Got it.  That is from an RIA auction back in June of 2016.  I can’t make out the “rack number” on the stock.  So that makes 3 such marked 1892’s.  The RIA rifle with SN 276873 was one of just 3 carbines in that order.  Not exactly outfitting a militia.

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