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Thomas Mckibben
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August 25, 2023 - 5:22 pm
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I have the opportunity to purchase an 1866 cut-away rifle from a private collection. this rifle is in 90-95% original condition. I can not find an example of an 1866 cut-away online or anywhere for that matter. This leaves me to believe that this rifle is quite rare. any input on value or historical information is much appreciated. Thank you all in advance. 

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I have a 73 cutaway and two 86 cutaways. No two are cut the same, it was up to the machinist to show what he wanted. The  73’s cutaways do not have serial number but have assembly numbers except for two 73’s that have serial numbers and letter. The bore should not be worn from shooting but can be rusted from poor storage since there was not much thought about swabbing a bore you don’t shoot. What era is the 66 based on features? I would think it would be early.

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Would have to see pics to give an opinion. 

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Parsons book has a pretty good breakdown of the existing records including number of half round,half magazine,  barrel length, plating etc. Doesn’t mention a skeleton or cutaway which would have been of interest to the author. That would lend it to be below 125,000 serial if it could ha e been done by the factory. 

 

Possibly in a range of one of the Paris exhibition or similar expos but would think there would be a mention of it being shipped and returned at a later date with the other deluxe guns that are not in the leterable range. Just my 2 cents but would love to see see pics. 

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August 26, 2023 - 9:23 pm
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Its not a 66, its a 86 cutaway.

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Says 66 in his title and description 

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So sorry for the confusion everyone I went to go look at it yesterday and it is indeed a 1886 which has plenty of information online. 

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The cutaway is in a auction that has been just put on the Swap Meet page item 312. They list it as a 1866 in 45-70 caliber

https://chuppsauction.com/auction/2-day-collectors-auction-9-14-copy-2/

In looking at the pictures it looks like the metal has been cleaned quite heavily. The pictures are not very good so a in person inspection is a must. They look to have some nice guns but with the real lack of good pictures it will hold back the internet bidders.

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