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April 27, 2017 - 5:15 pm
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Peter,

Put the screw in the hole in the butt plate without it being on the rifle… it will be readily evident that it is angled down.

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April 27, 2017 - 5:55 pm
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As usual, u be correct. Thanks, Peter

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April 27, 2017 - 6:11 pm
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A guy I know bought one of those plates from Numrich and had to do a fair amount of work to get it to fit properly.  His plate was cast which could have something to do with the bump on the back.

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April 27, 2017 - 6:53 pm
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It’s gone now on my plate. My plate is curved just a bit to much. It should be flatter to fit the stock properly. Can I assume that cast could break if I lay the plate down on concrete, with a thin piece of wood under it, with the curve up, and tap on it with a hammer to bent it flatter? Maybe I should heat it good and hot first. It’s off about 1/8″. Maybe the screws will just pull it down the way it should be.  Help appreciated Peter

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April 28, 2017 - 4:49 am
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It may break if you try to flatten it but what else can you do?

The originals of those plates are not too hard to find.   If you can’t make that one work, I’d find an original and use it.

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April 28, 2017 - 7:23 pm
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Peter,

I think sb has a good idea.  Even with an original buttplate, it looks as though you might have to fill in the notch at the top just a bit to get the support and the fit you’d want to have.

Good luck!

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April 28, 2017 - 7:37 pm
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Thank you both for the suggestion. I am attempting to change the curvature of the stock to accommodate the butt plate. I never said I was bright. Pray for me pls. Peter

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April 28, 2017 - 10:41 pm
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I would never alter the stock, far better to pick up an original plate…

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April 28, 2017 - 11:18 pm
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x2 on the stock alteration. Model 64 carbines are not easy to find in my neck of the woods. Much better to get an original buttplate. As has been said, they aren’t that hard to find. Just be patient and one will turn up.

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April 28, 2017 - 11:22 pm
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Unfortunately, the stock has already been altered with the extra and plugged holes, plus the notch at the top appears to have been expanded as well.

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James, did you smoke ur lunch?  Your not taking about my stock are you?? It has not been altered and has no extra or plugged holes. My notch at the top is perfect also, and I’ve never even posted pictures of it. Peter

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James, did you smoke ur lunch?  Your not taking about my stock are you?? It has not been altered and has no extra or plugged holes. My notch at the top is perfect also, and I’ve never even posted pictures of it. Peter  

I was referring to the pictures that have been posted, Peter, but since you have not posted any pictures of your buttstock, I apologize for the error.

Don’t smoke, though. Smile

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Bert H. said
Can you post a picture of what you are referring to? There were four different models that used the same butt plate all at the same time… the 64, 65, 70, and 71.
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They also used this buttplate to repair or replace broken composition buttplates on M1897 Trenchguns. I had one. Should have kept it.  Big Larry

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Big Larry said

They also used this buttplate to repair or replace broken composition buttplates on M1897 Trenchguns. I had one. Should have kept it.  Big Larry  

Larry,

Yes, they did, but that was before the previously mentioned models began using them.  Winchester actually used that butt plate on a lot of different models through the years, beginning with the Model 1887 lever-action shotgun.  In the years after 1900, it was also found on the Model 1885, Model 1886, and Model 1897.  It was a special order option for all models except the Model 1897, where it was the standard butt plate from early 1904 to early 1906 (3-years).  It was only in the mid 1930s through the 1940s when it was the standard butt plate for multiple models at the same time, and that is what I was referring to in my previous post.

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Eagle said
Thank you both for the suggestion. I am attempting to change the curvature of the stock to accommodate the butt plate. I never said I was bright. Pray for me pls. Peter  

Hi Peter,

I don’t know how much the repro buttplate cost but there are at least 2 originals for sale on GB right now, one for $30 and the other for $35.  I agree with the others and would use an original buttplate instead of modifying your stock but that is just my personal opinion.

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Anyone have an idea what a front sight hood should look like for my pre 64, model 64? I am thinking they are straight on one end and slanted on the other?? Maybe someone has a slightly used one that I can buy?? Thanks, Peter

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Anyone have an idea what a front sight hood should look like for my pre 64, model 64? I am thinking they are straight on one end and slanted on the other?? Maybe someone has a slightly used one that I can buy?? Thanks, Peter  

Peter,

They are the same as the pre 64 model 94 sight hood, angled on both sides.

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Any sight hood you find with a straight edge on one end, and beveled on the other end is a Reproduction item.

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Good info…thanks to you both. Peter

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