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Need original cleaning rods for a third model 1873 rifle, 24" barrel
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December 27, 2015 - 3:42 pm
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Does anyone here want to sell a cleaning rod for a third model 1873 rifle? would it be a three piece or four piece rod?

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Al

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Al,

A rifle set for a 24″ barrel is a 4 piece set. The three piece set is for a carbine and are of longer length.

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thanks Bob, any idea where I can find an original?

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Al,

I see them sold on Ebay all the time. I checked just now and there is only one set that looks correct. Its up to $132 and are a little rusty. The rest are either carbine or are repos. I gave up trying to buy rods for my guns since someone mass produced them years ago that were correct in every way. The repo guys used .250″ rod which is widely available since the correct size which is smaller is not but someone had some rod made and mass produced them. The other tell is the slot in the end piece. It was punched in not milled. The garage machinist will not have a punch press to make then correctly and just mills a slot. If I don’t see the tell tail of the punched slot I know they are repos. So to tell if they are real, you have to know what to look for and have a micrometer.

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Bob,

How many years ago were the fake ‘correct’ rods made? I have seen rods with the barrel proof mark on the top of the tip as stated as original.

Walter

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Walter,

They were advertized in the Gun List before the internet took off. I have never seen a cleaning rod with a proof mark on it yet.

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Bob,

 Thanks for the info. The rods I have were purchased over 20 years ago. I miss the Gun List magazine. The rods with a proof mark were purchased on Ebay and sent back.

Walter

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1873man said

Al,

I see them sold on Ebay all the time. I checked just now and there is only one set that looks correct. Its up to $132 and are a little rusty. The rest are either carbine or are repos. I gave up trying to buy rods for my guns since someone mass produced them years ago that were correct in every way. The repo guys used .250″ rod which is widely available since the correct size which is smaller is not but someone had some rod made and mass produced them. The other tell is the slot in the end piece. It was punched in not milled. The garage machinist will not have a punch press to make then correctly and just mills a slot. If I don’t see the tell tail of the punched slot I know they are repos. So to tell if they are real, you have to know what to look for and have a micrometer.

Bob

Thanks for the info Bob.

Al

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How many pieces would a 30 inch barrel take?    terry

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Terry,

That would be the same as a musket, 5 piece.

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