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clarence said
Big Larry said
The Fecker that has alluded me all these years is the 1 1/2″. I have had most all of the standard scopes. I have never seen a 1 1/2″er for sale. I would still buy one if I saw one. Thanks, Big LarryLarry, Would you be thinking about the 1-5/8″ model? That was the largest, and only in production a few yrs. I’ve seen a fair number of the 1-1/2″ models; in fact I have one, in the seldom-seen Fecker wooden box.
That would be the Champion model. I have owned two of those. One was a late 24X which I gave to a friend. One of my Feckers had an original leather case with it. Under the top, the owner had put all the dope for the scope. Yep, sold that one too. Big Larry
When I was heavy into the M1903A1 Sniper rifles, I had several people send me their rifles for evaluation and I went to some folks homes too. 99% of these rifles were fakes. The one sold at auction by a certain auction company was a fake as well. I looked the rifle over at a large gun show. One rifle sent to me from Birmingham, AL, was indeed the real thing. Purchased at a local show for $200. Another one, sent to me by a retired Marine Major was real as well. USMC purchase in 1954. No papers on either rifle. As far as I know, mine was the only papered Sniper ever found. Probably worth a great deal more now than when I sold it. Yes, I have seen my share of these rifles. I owned 3 good ones myself. Big Larry
Steve & Clarence: I might be missing something here in regards to the special USMC type rear mount, but I don’t know for sure if I am following some posts correctly. Are either one of you gents, or anyone else you know of claiming, or agreeing to a claim, that this type of mount was not made specifically for the Marines? I don’t claim to be an expert, but if anyone here can furnish creditable proof to the contrary, please, by all means…post it up so that we can verify such information.
Thanks,
James
jwm94 said
Steve & Clarence: I might be missing something here in regards to the special USMC type rear mount, but I don’t know for sure if I am following some posts correctly. Are either one of you gents, or anyone else you know of claiming, or agreeing to a claim, that this type of mount was not made specifically for the Marines? I don’t claim to be an expert, but if anyone here can furnish creditable proof to the contrary, please, by all means…post it up so that we can verify such information.Thanks,
James
Oh no, sorry I wasn’t very clear. Yes the Marines did use the Mann type tapered blocks on some of their A5 scopes. Niedner mounted a 150 rifles in the spring of 1917 at the Philly Depot. And the Philly Depot, you see vague mentions of tapered blocks for the next 20 years. Including new manufacture. But they had several variations of the A5 rifles, so they weren’t just all the Mann Niedner type.
I think Clarence just meant that he sold a set of the Mann Niedner type mounts, without a scope online. So someone probably bought it, and put it on a A5, and that scope was not used by the Marines. Just the mounts probably were.
I just mentioned that after Niedner was basically let go in June 1917, he continued to use the Mann Tapered block design on commercial rifles. So the Mann tapered block design blocks were not just exclusive to the Marines. You see variations of it on Niedner commercial rifles as well.
steven norton said
Oh no, sorry I wasn’t very clear. Yes the Marines did use the Mann type tapered blocks on some of their A5 scopes. Niedner mounted a 150 rifles in the spring of 1917 at the Philly Depot. And the Philly Depot, you see vague mentions of tapered blocks for the next 20 years. Including new manufacture. But they had several variations of the A5 rifles, so they weren’t just all the Mann Niedner type.
I think Clarence just meant that he sold a set of the Mann Niedner type mounts, without a scope online. So someone probably bought it, and put it on a A5, and that scope was not used by the Marines. Just the mounts probably were.
I just mentioned that after Niedner was basically let go in June 1917, he continued to use the Mann Tapered block design on commercial rifles. So the Mann tapered block design blocks were not just exclusive to the Marines. You see variations of it on Niedner commercial rifles as well.
Thanks for clarifying that for me, Steve. You’re probably right about Clarence referring to the Winchester Type 2 Mann-Neidner mount as well.
Have a good day, man.
James
steven norton said
I think Clarence just meant that he sold a set of the Mann Niedner type mounts, without a scope online. So someone probably bought it, and put it on a A5, and that scope was not used by the Marines.
Correct, Steve. A non-original scope to be mounted on a faked (probably) sniper rifle.
Steve Earle is making a copy of the Mann tapered block sets too now. Both the ones that mount on the 1903 rifle itself, and also the conversion pieces for the WRA #2 mounts on a A5 scope.
So that is going as well now too.
steven norton said
Steve Earle is making a copy of the Mann tapered block sets too now. Both the ones that mount on the rifle itself, and also the conversion pieces for the WRA #2 mounts.So that is going as well now.
Holy Christ, don’t tell me the fakers are running perfectly good (and rare!) Winchester mounts under a band saw to make these fakes??? The pointers could be easily fabricated, but where do they get the correct thimbles? I’m ready to join a death-squad, if the perpetrators of this crime can be identified.
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