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February 2, 2013
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I have a lettered model 1890 22 short shipped June 1899. The letter states it left Winchester with “Graduated peep sights“. Now, can anybody expand on this? I don’t know if this refers to a routine Lyman tang sight or a more elaborate graduated peep sight and/or can this also mean a Beech or some other than standard front sight? This rifle has a lot of options and engraved as per the letter. As the rifle is now, I have the standard rear and front sights. The rear tang/peep sight was removed sometime before I bought the rifle about 40 years ago. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would very very interested in buying a graduated peep sight for this rifle if someone has one willing to sell it.
Len
May 2, 2009
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Len,
The graduated peep is a tang sight is just the tang sight that you adjust the elevation by loosening the eye cup a little and sliding it up or down. I’m really surprised a model 90 would letter with one of those since its for long range shooting. I believe the letter is only talking about the tang sight and not the other sights on the gun. The graduated peep was put on many early guns in combination with different front sights, the most common combination was a Peep with a Beach front or a Peep with a Globe front. Here is a picture of a boxed set for a 94.
Bob
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April 15, 2005
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Bob is correct, and I too find it unusual that a Model 1890 letters with a Graduated Peep sight. The vast majority of Graduated peep sights were installed on the Model 1885 Single Shot rifles, as there were at least several thousand that letter with.
Bert
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May 2, 2009
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Len,
You should ask the Cody Museum for a snap shot of the ledger entry for your gun and post it here so I can see exactly how its written.
Bob
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February 2, 2013
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I spent quite a bit of time awhile ago e-mailing and talking to the Cody people and I was told I could not get a snap shot of the ledger covering this gun. Don’t understand the why of it but if that’s what it is then that’s what it is………
Len
May 24, 2012
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66m20e said
I have a lettered model 1890 22 short shipped June 1899. The letter states it left Winchester with “Graduated peep sights“. Now, can anybody expand on this? I don’t know if this refers to a routine Lyman tang sight or a more elaborate graduated peep sight and/or can this also mean a Beech or some other than standard front sight? This rifle has a lot of options and engraved as per the letter. As the rifle is now, I have the standard rear and front sights. The rear tang/peep sight was removed sometime before I bought the rifle about 40 years ago. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would very very interested in buying a graduated peep sight for this rifle if someone has one willing to sell it.Len
The Sight Book lists
Sight 36A for the following models: 1866, 1873-Graduated Peep, 1886, 1890, 1892, 1894, and 1895 (Old Number 58)
Sight 38A Mid-Range Vernier Peep – Model 1876, 1866, 1873, 1876, S.S., 1886, 1890, 1892, 1894, 1895, 1904 (Old Number 62)
James
May 2, 2009
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Len,
What is the condition of the blue? Are you trying to match the tangs condition to the guns condition? If its a high condition gun then you might have to spend some money to get it to match. Graduated peeps range from about $450 to $800
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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March 31, 2009
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jwm94 said
66m20e said
I have a lettered model 1890 22 short shipped June 1899. The letter states it left Winchester with “Graduated peep sights“. Now, can anybody expand on this? I don’t know if this refers to a routine Lyman tang sight or a more elaborate graduated peep sight and/or can this also mean a Beech or some other than standard front sight? This rifle has a lot of options and engraved as per the letter. As the rifle is now, I have the standard rear and front sights. The rear tang/peep sight was removed sometime before I bought the rifle about 40 years ago. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would very very interested in buying a graduated peep sight for this rifle if someone has one willing to sell it.Len
The Sight Book lists
Sight 36A for the following models: 1866, 1873-Graduated Peep, 1886, 1890, 1892, 1894, and 1895 (Old Number 58)
Sight 38A Mid-Range Vernier Peep – Model 1876, 1866, 1873, 1876, S.S., 1886, 1890, 1892, 1894, 1895, 1904 (Old Number 62)
James
Winchester supplied graduated peep sights that were unmarked or marked WRACO. Graduated peep sights don’t have the elevation screw that a vernier sight has. Yes, they are more common on some models and some are marked for the specific model but they would supply whatever you ordered.
