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December 31, 2012
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I guess this qualifies as a sight?
The scope in this box is virtually new. The box is a little beat up. My question is this, the 9-9 on the right side? Is this a date? Thanks, Big Larry
May 24, 2012
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The 9 – 9 seems to be a good fit for the month and year for the A – 5 seeing as how it appeared the following June in their catalog, but I don’t know for sure. What is the 1258, an inventory number for the A – 5?
Big Larry, are the markings on the graduation dials/indents in red or white?
James
December 31, 2012
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jwm94 said
The 9 – 9 seems to be a good fit for the month and year for the A – 5 seeing as how it appeared the following June in their catalog, but I don’t know for sure. What is the 1258, an inventory number for the A – 5?Big Larry, are the markings on the graduation dials/indents in red or white?
James
Neither red or white. They are white on my 5A. I haven’t a clue as to the markings on the box. Thanks, Big Larry
November 1, 2013
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Big Larry said
Neither red or white. They are white on my 5A. I haven’t a clue as to the markings on the box. Thanks, Big Larry
Should be one or the other. Red was the first color used, but it doesn’t take much oil & grime to make the red sort of fade away, which is why the color was changed in the early ’20s to white. If you tried cleaning the markings with a Q-tip moistened with acetone, you’d probably see some color show through.
April 15, 2005
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Do NOT use acetone… it will remove more than the grime!! Instead, use plain Isopropyl alcohol. Acetone is a fast acting pain remover. It will not harm bluing or case color finished, but it will dissolve/strip paint very quickly.
Bert
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November 1, 2013
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jwm94 said
What is the 1258, an inventory number for the A – 5?
James
Perhaps a printer’s code; box I have has that same number, and a date code of 7-20.
December 31, 2012
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I re examined both my scopes under a high intensity mag-light and both have the red dials. Very hard to see the color without a powerful light. They do show well under the light. The one on my M52 Slowlock # 10281, shows more red than the one in the box. This rifle came to me with the scope and a Kerr sling. The rifle is a good 98%. Do the colors make a difference as to age? Thanks, Big Larry
November 1, 2013
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Big Larry said
Do the colors make a difference as to age? Thanks, Big Larry
Without checking my records, the change from red to white date is ’22 or ’23. ’22 I think.
December 31, 2012
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clarence said
By the way, Larry, here’s one I bet you don’t have–only known example (which is why I saved seller’s photo!) of the rarest A5 variation, sold on ebay several yrs ago for about $1100.[Image Can Not Be Found]
I have never seen one except for pics. Very nice. Cheap too. Please get me the date on the transition from red to white knobs. Thanks, Big Larry
November 1, 2013
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Big Larry said
Please get me the date on the transition from red to white knobs. Thanks, Big Larry
Should know by now not to trust my memory. Correct date is May, 1923, according to T.C. Johnson’s “history” of Winchester, preserved at Cody.
December 31, 2012
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clarence said
Should know by now not to trust my memory. Correct date is May, 1923, according to T.C. Johnson’s “history” of Winchester, preserved at Cody.
Clarence I would like to thank you for answering my posts timely and not being a smart Alec as a certain person on the Rimfire Forum. You seem to be a knowledgeable person and I for one, appreciate that. It is great we can share what we know. Regards, Big Larry
December 27, 2007
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I too appreciated the exchange of ideas on these scopes.
I’ll be checking mine to see the color. But sitting here (and I don’t get to trust my memory either), sitting here, I’m thinking it is white. With a bit of color-blindness and these aging eyes, it could be the only purple one produced for all I know!
Thank you, fellows, for the conversation.
September 19, 2014
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Clarence and Big Larry!
You folks may think your memory is bad, but at least you get CLOSE! Me, my memory is crystal clear, until such time as I am able to verify it with written records, if I can find them. Then I find out the gremlins have been busy and rewritten my records! I like to think my “experienced” brain is full, and for some new fact to fit in, something else has to fall out?! I hope rather sincerely, that as time moves inexorably forward, the younger crowd cuts us some slack!
Keep up the good work.
Tim
April 15, 2005
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Tim,
Your brain is operating just like a FIFO stack (something that I am intimately familiar with). The trick is to expand your memory before you fill it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFO_(computing_and_electronics)
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
July 19, 2013
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Bert,
i guess that would make Winchester RIRO… Random in random out.
Bill
November 1, 2013
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Bert H. said
Tim,
The trick is to expand your memory before you fill it.
Bert
Sherlock Holmes believed the brain had a finite data storage capacity, and that absorbing frivolous and trivial information therefor impaired his mental efficiency (have forgotten, of course, the exact quotation!). I agree wholeheartedly, and think that television makes this problem infinitely greater. I grew up eating Swanson TV dinners on TV trays (man’s greatest invention, my mother believed), and simply cannot eat or even drink coffee without sitting down before the tube, thus continuously polluting my mind with more garbage, the worst of it being the commercials. Even though I won’t endure one for longer than it takes to change channels, still, I can’t help remembering them, and my hatred for them (all except the dog-food ads).
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