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April 15, 2005
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tim tomlinson said
Zeb, By any chance do you have the skills and sheet stock to make a replacement blade sight insert? Then I CAN help sing “they’re coming to take me away, ha ha, ho ho, he he, to the Happy Farm…..”. That is going back a few years now! Tim
No need to sing it… Bing Videos
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September 19, 2014
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Zeb, Unfortunately, so much of life has changed. I had a front sight insert made for an 1876 by a jeweler in Sierra Vista, AZ. That was where the idea of using German silver came from. Jeweler made jewelry (lots of turquoise) from scratch and had scraps of German silver around. Used to be jewelry hobby supplies available as well. Don’t know if there still are. Your comments ref the reissue 1895 are dead on as I see it. Do as you wish and have fun! Tim
September 19, 2014
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Bert, NO VIDEOS! Maybe won’t need to sing either as they may actually take me away soon. Tim
September 19, 2014
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Zeb, I have an NRA musket in .30 Gov’t of 1906 that has a receiver sight on it. The ladder sight was modified to get it out of the line of sight when using the aperture style sight. I would rather that hadn’t been done but it was. I don’t think the front blade was replaced. You may want to shoot it first and see if the blade is OK or if it is too short, etc. And yes, the headspace is very generous to say the least. I’ve an idea it was used in competition for quite a few rounds through the barrel. Tim
January 20, 2023
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Tim (and anybody who shoots the original Winchester 1895 carbines),
While fiddling with this carbine and the 405 as well, I have been shouldering both of them a lot and have noticed the length of pull on the carbine feels considerably shorter than that of the rifle. Haven’t taken a tape to either of them but the SRC seems to put my nose closer to the hammer.
If you know, was that true of the original carbines?
Browning had access to original WRA drawings of all versions of the 1895, although they may have just reverse engineered originals and obtained numbers by take-off. While all the dims were converted to metric for programming Miroku’s CNC high precision machinery, an inauthentic, overshort LOP for the Winchester branded 95 SRC would be very much out of character for Browning, at least based on my prior experience with Browning labeled models 12, 42, 53, 71, 86, and 95.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
September 19, 2014
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Zeb, I don’t know but will check it out and report. Tim
September 19, 2014
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Zeb, I have measured appropriate examples that were out so no need to get into the safe. A fun time compared to what I really ought to be doing. Suggest you measure your two after market reissues for fun and edification. My measurements show no difference in length of pull. Here is something like a table.
SN: 401171 SRC with modified shotgun type, carbine butt. LOP: 12 3/4 inch. Like new in 30 ARMY, from Felix Bedlan. 1917 date.
SN: 415799 Rifle with shotgun butt and Jostam pad. LOP: 13 3/4 over the Hygun after market replacement. Cal. 405 Win. 1922 date.
SN: 38557 Rifle with smooth steel shotgun butt. LOP: 12 3/4. Cheek piece stock, deluxe rifle. 1902 date.
SN: 1151 Rifle with crescent butt. LOP: 12 3/4. Early flat side standard rifle. 1896 date.
Note that the one in .405 has an after market replacement Jostam Hygun ventilated recoil pad. Much appreciated but not original as it came from the factory. Too late to letter so no idea what it originally had. There is no widows peak on the rifle. Stock likely not cut but replacement is a bit thicker? Pad is about 2 inches thick. I did not measure any muskets but suspect them to be the same LOP. Just guessing though. Those I would have had to pull out of the safe.
Tim
January 20, 2023
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Well, now you’ve done it and both of us are putting off the less interesting chores.
I’ll know shortly but, instead of changing my lawnmower blade, I’m going to run upstairs for a tape comparison.
I can readily believe 12 3/4″ for the carbine. People were smaller then but you’d look like Abe Lincoln with a pickle fork.
Wait 5.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
January 20, 2023
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Tim, long 5 minutes but I got the tape on both of them, both measured true to the originals. 13.25 for the rifle and 12.75 for the carbine. I can really feel the half-inch difference, probably because a 13.5 LOP suits me fine and 13.75 is not overlong.
Back to the lawnmower….
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
