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I’m trying to find out if the Parker Hale tang sight ( thick base ) was ever offered by Winchester for the Model 53, or would it be period correct if on a 53 ?
Also, does a rear leaf site instead of a Buckhorn sight on the same rifle seem correct ? Or possibly original ? ( no pictures at this time )
I have no catalogues and nothing in Stroebel.
Bill
Google search took me right back to our Forum:
Brad & Gary reviewing it.
https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-sights/Parker-Hale+Tang+Sight+for+Winchester+1894/
Stroebels page 138. 1958 listing. M-10. Fits M94, M92, so that’s means M53 tang accepts it too.
The leaf sight on M53 rear barrel still puzzles me. Any help or opinion appreciated.
Bill
I don’t know much about the Model 53. My first thought as to whether a rear folding leaf sight was original would be to look closely for wear left behind from any other type of sight. I could be entirely possible for it to have had a leaf sight, it’s just really hard for me to do anything but guess without seeing it.
It’s very common to see some type of flat top or folding rear sight when a tang sight is installed.
Brad
Brad,
Got some pictures for you. It’s Parker-Hale, but I have no idea of type and model number ( and value ). Made in England
My eyes are crossed from looking. A collector says it was in the 1929 Winchester cataloge, though I have my doubts.
Bill
Bill
pdog72 also posted one that was on a Model 53 that was on guns international. I see the listing is no longer available to look at. Spursfan answered my question about these sights in the link you posted above just by looking on pg. 138 of Old Gunsights where it is listed as a Parker-Hale M-10. I don’t have a 1929 Winchester catalog and I also would like to see the catalog page where it is shown if anyone has one. I’m glad you posted the pictures of the sight because it has different markings and finish than mine. I haven’t seen enough of these to know how to date them. Mine is not coded. In the 2nd Old Gunsights book on page 237 it’s coded as 10 W.N. for the Model 53. The pages appear to be from a 1962 catalog. Can you read any markings on the sight in your pictures? I was hoping to see pictures of it on the gun, and also the area around the rear sight. It could be possible to look at the upper tang and screws and figure out if it had always been on there or was possibly added, same as to whether there had been a different rear sight before. I can only guess. Sorry I’m not more helpful here.
Brad
Brad,
To further help ID this, numbers I see are: No 4533 or 4-533 ( partial ? ).
Letters: W.N ; a triangle. left slope up DSLFY, right slope down WORKS. INSIDE TRIANGLE 4G4 ( last 4 is reversed )
There is an additional circular eye peep with XXX all around it attached to peep in book picture.
The only way to get more numbers, if there, before 4533 is to take it apart, which I hesitate to do.
No markings on bottom of base. Windage and distance numbers in place. It’s not exact to Parker-Hale M – 10
Any cataloge information would be helpful. Did it possibly come from factory ?
Anyone with furthure input would be appreciated, and value if know. It’s a very well made sight.
Bill
Thanks Brad,
Looks identical except ” Parker-Hale Made in England ” is not inscribed on elevation twist.
eBay never had a model # on their listing, so still a mystery. It came on my M53, fit perfectly except slight overhang on sides to wood.
Excellent sight for the rifle.
I hope someone comes up with model # and if used on other Winchesters.
Bill
Brad,
Here are some pictures you asked for: P-H and Lyman:
You can see where the PH left wood indent. Lyman looks better, and PH is a better sight, I think.
Yeah, having a windage adjustment on the Parker-Hale would be nice and your rifle already has the marks from it in the wood. That PH sight looks like it was on that rifle for some time, at least that’s what I see in the pictures. I guess it all boils down to what you prefer to use.
Brad
Blueliner, I am keeping a database of all surviving Model 53’s. If you have not already done so, I would be grateful for the data on your Model 53 to add to the database … the full serial number and any other features worthy of note (I would include the info on your sight). If it is not too much trouble, I would also really appreciate the two digit barrel date. You can email me at [email protected]
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