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A friend has a #44A rear sight on a 1892 takedown rifle in 44wcf. Does anyone have any info on these metric marked ladder sights? There are no out of the ordinary markings on the gun. Thanks,

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A little late, but this might help.  I recently sold a 1894 Carbine made in 1914 (sn. 6610xx) that has a metric marked ladder sight.  It was part of a contract of 15,100 rifles ordered by the French for WWI… purchase was actually made by Remington Arms, who then shipped them to France. They also had sling swivel mounts added (not necessarily from factory – most likely by the French), one in the buttstock and the other under the front barrel band (marked).  After the war, most were sold by the French government to Belgium, they were then proof marked and shipped to the Congo for general use. 

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A little late, but this might help.  I recently sold a 1894 Carbine made in 1914 (sn. 6610xx) that has a metric marked ladder sight.  It was part of a contract of 15,100 rifles ordered by the French for WWI… purchase was actually made by Remington Arms, who then shipped them to France. They also had sling swivel mounts added (not necessarily from factory – most likely by the French), one in the buttstock and the other under the front barrel band (marked).  After the war, most were sold by the French government to Belgium, they were then proof marked and shipped to the Congo for general use. 

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Can you provide the complete serial number?  There is a research survey in progress to document the French Contract Model 1894 Carbines.  Thus far, (244) of them have been identified by serial number.

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I have an 1892 made in 1916 in 25-20 caliber with this metric rear sight.  I thought it was an after market sight and now think Winchester may have been using up the old sights or an employee just installed the wrong one. Nice to know the rifle may be original.

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Jim Mason said
I have an 1892 made in 1916 in 25-20 caliber with this metric rear sight.  I thought it was an after market sight and now think Winchester may have been using up the old sights or an employee just installed the wrong one. Nice to know the rifle may be original.

  

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It is highly unlikely that Winchester installed a metric No. 44A sight on your Model 1892 in 25-20 WCF.  To the best of my knowledge, the metric sights were only used on 44 WCF caliber Carbines and Model 1894 Carbines in 30 WCF.

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I have an 1892 in 25-20 made in 1913.  It has this metric sight as well.  Just wondered if Winchester just used up the sights to save money.  CoolKissLaughSmileSurprisedWink

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