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Installing a 3 leaf sight without drilling and tapping???
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December 17, 2014 - 5:34 pm
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 I bought this sight to install on a 1894 Winchester with an octagon barrel. 

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The rifle is in excellent condition and I’d rather not D&T the barrel.

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Any ideas on how to do this. I see there was available a three leaf “express” sight for Winchesters that simply slid into the dovetail. But it is no longer available.

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Guess I could TIG weld a piece of metal to the bottom after removing the octagon barrel shape and then cut a male dovetail?

 

Any other ideas?

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December 17, 2014 - 5:42 pm
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Is there screw holes in the sight ? If there is you could mount it just like a model 90 barrel sight. You put a dovetailed insert in the dovetail of the barrel that is drilled and tapped then set the sight on and screw it down.

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There are two holes for mounting. But they are rather far forward and back. I guess I could drill one in the center and do what you suggest.

 

In this way I could leave the octagon contour to stop the sight from twisting. Simply mount a D&Ted dovetail blank contoured to the octagon shape. Screw the sight down to it. Done!

 

Thanks for a great suggestion!

 

Off to the shop I go!

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Finished!

Here are a few pictures of the process:

 

Here is what the three leaf sight looks like disassembled:

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I took an old front sight I had and filed it down to fit:

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Drilled and tapped it for 6-48 Screw:

 

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And screwed it down and it fit like a glove!

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Thanks for the suggestion!

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December 17, 2014 - 8:12 pm
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Wow that was fast, Glad it worked out for you and the nice part about it is you can remove it and the gun is still original.

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Thanks Bob,

 

You can’t see it, but I put electrical tape on the bottom of the site so it doesn’t mar the barrel. With these old guns I like things to be reversible.

The front sight was an old Ivory bead type:

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That I had to replace as it simply wouldn’t be high enough. I’ll be sure to keep it safe to go with the rifle when it leaves my stewardship.

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The next question is where the point of impact will be at 100 yards with your new sight. 

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December 17, 2014 - 8:31 pm
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I’m sure that will require adjustment by trying different height front sights and then filing the leaves on the rear site for whatever ranges I’m looking for. I hope I can get 50, 100, 200 yds out of it. I’ll never be shooting game at over 200 yards with these eyes and those sights!

But for steel at the range at 300, 400 and 500…There is always the tang sight that still exists.

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