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Adjusting wind age on this tang sight
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Matt H.
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Hello all, I am nervous as all get out to attempt to adjust this sight to the correct windage and also am at a loss on the best way to do so. The rifle shoots great with the standard rear sight, but the tang is way out of whack and doesn’t line up. I’m assuming I’d be more accurate at distance using the tang. I have heard about putting a piece of paper under the side of the tang sight that needs to come up, is that a legitimate fix? Coming from a precision rifle background this seems gimmicky but if that’s the way then ‘this is the way.” 

On a side note, I am in need of a rear sight blank if there are any to be had. 

I have a deer hunt in November that I’d like to use this rifle on, so I have a little time to figure it out.

 

Thanks in advance fellas

 

Matt

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Matt,

how you do that is with shim paper under one side or the other. You can try different thickness of paper or card stock. cut in a narrow strip just under the side so you don’t see it. If you make it too wide it will not tilt to the side as good. Just soak the paper with oil so it doesn’t suck up moisture and start rusting.

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Hello all, I am nervous as all get out to attempt to adjust this sight to the correct windage and also am at a loss on the best way to do so. The rifle shoots great with the standard rear sight, but the tang is way out of whack and doesn’t line up. I’m assuming I’d be more accurate at distance using the tang. I have heard about putting a piece of paper under the side of the tang sight that needs to come up, is that a legitimate fix? Coming from a precision rifle background this seems gimmicky but if that’s the way then ‘this is the way.” 

  

 Matt, First see if the front sight is centered on the barrel then move the tang sight left or right with a paper shim. Business cards work nice cut to go under one side of the base, you can color them with a black ink marker so they aren’t obvious. I have seen the base machined professionally, don’t know if it was factory work or not. It should not take more than 2 shims unless something is bent. T/R

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This worked for me. You can remove the sight to use it as a template for the shim.  Trace the holes and outside of the sight base on to your choice of shim material. Business cards work well and are cheap if you make a mistake.  I use a hole punch for the hole cutouts.  I cut the piece a little over half to one side. By leaving it cut as shown you can get the screws started then slip the shim into place using tweezers or a tooth pick.  Then tighten the sight screws. You can easily add thickness with another shim if needed.  Use a black felt pen to darken the edges.  Coating the shim with a light oil will help prevent rust developing under the sight.  Hope this works for you too.  RDB

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Thanks a bunch, I’ll give this a shot!

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Matt Herman said
On a side note, I am in need of a rear sight blank if there are any to be had. 

  

They’re still made, like this one, but you’ll have to rub it down with steel wool for a better match with the finish of your ’94.  Old ones show up from time to time on ebay, but you’ll spend a lot of time looking.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392208025833?hash=item5b516b88e9:g:DZwAAOSwpY5b4lX1

Or, if you’re willing to spend a hundred or so, you can buy a Lyman #6 folding sight, which was often installed at the factory when a tang sight was ordered.  These can be found in more or less “old” cond. & might make a better match for your rifle.

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Matt Herman said I have heard about putting a piece of paper under the side of the tang sight that needs to come up, is that a legitimate fix? Coming from a precision rifle background this seems gimmicky but if that’s the way then ‘this is the way.” 
  

Matt, use of a paper shim was exactly the method described in early Lyman catalogs for correcting this problem.  So you can call it “factory approved & authorized.”   And if the staff doesn’t come up to a perfectly vertical position, it can be adjusted by running a screwdriver blade through the eye of the spring bolt & twisting it forward or backward as needed; this, too, is described in the factory instructions for installation.

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Brownell’s has some sight blanks, for some rifles I like the one that looks like ones made from a sight base but I think the standard one will look better on your round barrel. If you don’t like paper shims I’ve used adhesive tape and even “shim stock” cut from aluminum beverage cans. 

 

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Thanks gents, I’m processing all the info you’ve sent. I went ahead and made a sim as directed, it did bring the tang sight more to the center, still off ever so much, but not enough I’m of a mind to mess with it just yet. I also used some rite in the rain paper for a little added weatherproofness. Need to see how I shoot with it. 

 

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On a side note, I know these rifles were used and out in the elements in their lifetime, and I plan to use this one in the fall for deer. I am a bit apprehensive about if we have a bunch of wet weather, snow and such, and have contemplated bringing a regular bolt rifle just in case. But I do suppose I could just be ultra careful about getting it dried off good each night if we do get weather. We will be in a nice cabin with wood stove so maybe it won’t be too much of an issue. 

Thanks again

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Matt Herman said I also used some rite in the rain paper for a little added weatherproofness.
 

Think you’d be better off to use regular card stock & soak it in oil as Bob suggested.

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clarence said

Matt Herman said I also used some rite in the rain paper for a little added weatherproofness.

 

Think you’d be better off to use regular card stock & soak it in oil as Bob suggested.

  

Copy that, totally missed the oil part! 

Any issue with using one of those silicone rod and gun rags by Hoppes for protection when out in the field?

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Matt Herman said

Any issue with using one of those silicone rod and gun rags by Hoppes for protection when out in the field?

  

No, but don’t get it in your eyes.

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Does anyone have a Lyman #6 they’d be willing to part with? I think I’d like to go that route rather than the blank

 Thanks

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Does anyone have a Lyman #6 they’d be willing to part with? I think I’d like to go that route rather than the blank

 

Much better plan.  Create a “saved search” on ebay, & you’ll find one within a few weeks.

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Thanks Clarence! Will do

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clarence said

Matt Herman said

Does anyone have a Lyman #6 they’d be willing to part with? I think I’d like to go that route rather than the blank

 

Much better plan.  Create a “saved search” on ebay, & you’ll find one within a few weeks.

  

This one look good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363833987516?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=9-OrlwM7Sy2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=_gy-KQtESUa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Sell your tang sight and find a correct Lyman #103. That will solve your problem. I have one on my 1916 vintage M1894 38-55. Big Larry

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