Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
You don't see a M1897 antique takedown brush gun every day
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4987
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
February 25, 2024 - 2:13 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12498
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
February 25, 2024 - 6:38 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

It is an interesting Model 1897, but it is not as uncommon as advertised.  Take Downs were introduced in the 48850 serial range, and I currently have (8) earlier production Take Down Brush Guns documented in my survey, with one of them also having a MOD choked barrel.  The really rare Brush Gun is the one gun found with a FULL choke barrel.

I am rather surprised by the $2,550 bid amount.  While it is a nice gun, the cracked slide handle stock and the replacement butt plate would bother me at that price.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
March 2, 2024
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
March 16, 2024 - 11:03 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I have a takedown brush mfg in 1899. Noticed the external ejector not present on the link in the thread (mines the same as link) why the difference with ejector? Paid 400.00 for mine in a pawn shop.

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12498
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
March 17, 2024 - 2:37 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Tim Adair said
I have a takedown brush mfg in 1899. Noticed the external ejector not present on the link in the thread (mines the same as link) why the difference with ejector? Paid 400.00 for mine in a pawn shop.

Tim,

The very early production Model 1897 receiver frames were configured much the same as the predecessor Model 1893.  Shortly after the Model 1897 was introduced (in late May 1897), Winchester’s engineers set out to find ways to improve John M. Brownings original design.  The improvements were often driven by the financial incentive to make the guns easier to manufacture and assemble.  Moving the ejector spring to the outside of the receiver frame made it much easier (and faster) to assemble the receiver group.

The change from the internal ejector spring to the external mounted spring took place in mid September 1899 (in the 83300 – 84000 serial number range.

I have an extensive research survey in progress for the Model 1897 and would like to add your Brush Gun to the survey.  Please provide the serial number on your gun.

Bert – [email protected]

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Mikaela Gaines
Guest
WACA Guest
5
March 20, 2024 - 11:54 pm
sp_Permalink
Awaiting Moderation

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: wally, Tom D
Guest(s) 84
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6109
Chuck: 5562
steve004: 4987
1873man: 4639
Big Larry: 2500
twobit: 2470
mrcvs: 2111
Maverick: 1903
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14347
Posts: 127506

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2012
Members: 9738
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation