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Winchester model 1897 12 guage pump. Serial # 94853
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Mike Rushing
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November 24, 2018 - 11:22 pm
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Question, what I have seen is the serial # is on the lower and upper part of this shotgun. Mine does not have one on the upper part or barrel. Did they put serial#’s on both parts in the beginning or not. My 1897 shows to be made in 1899 per the # but some where down the line did this shotgun get a different upper part. Just asking. Thank You. 

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Bert H.
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November 25, 2018 - 4:55 am
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Mike,

First question… is your Model 1897 a Take Down, or a Solid Frame? Near the turn of the century approximately 50% of each type were manufactured. If your M-1897 is a Solid frame, it will only have the serial number stamped on the receiver frame. Take Downs (with their removable barrel assembly) were serial numbered on both major pieces.

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November 25, 2018 - 7:01 pm
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Bert, thank you for your response, Mine is a removable barrel but where there is suppose to have a # on the barrel, there is none. It does not seem to have been ground off. Just the receiver frame has one. 

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I was wanting to turn it into a WW1 trench gun. Cutting the barrel down to 20in. and adding the heat shield and bayonet lug but I don’t know if this will drop the value of the gun.

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Mike Rushing said
I was wanting to turn it into a WW1 trench gun. Cutting the barrel down to 20in. and adding the heat shield and bayonet lug but I don’t know if this will drop the value of the gun.  

Mike,

All WW I Trench and Riot Guns were Solid frames versus Take Down.  In general, altering or modifying any old Winchester will reduce its value.  Can you send me a clear picture showing the bottom of the receiver frame and barrel assembly?

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