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Winchester Model 12 Solid Frame Feather Weight.
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October 19, 2022 - 7:23 pm
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 This  is  a shot  gun  i’m selling, from  an estate  , It’s  an early 60’s  Solid Frame   12 Guage Model 12.  162684- they  were discontinued in 1964?.  It’s  way  too long   for me  to shoot, the White line pad is factory  , tried a  buttplate,  that was too small. .for a very tall man, long arms.. once  thrice fired? The Solid frames  were only a few years .as far as i have  read. 20221019_14513017598.jpgImage Enlarger20221019_14513717602.jpgImage Enlarger20221019_14521017603.jpgImage Enlarger20221019_14520617599.jpgImage Enlarger20221019_14525217600.jpgImage Enlarger20221019_14544517601.jpgImage Enlarger20221019_14545417604.jpgImage Enlarger

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I think this gun is a lot older than what you think…Maybe 1917?

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October 19, 2022 - 7:46 pm
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 1957  1,162684—missed a diget. 

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That is not what I see in your last picture????  If it is really 1,162,684 that would make it 1948.  Where are you getting your data?  You need the data from this site.  Go to the top of the page under Resources and when was your gun made.

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 i took a lens  and looked  1826841F  late 1961. ,  i was reading  from  the photos..  it’s  a solid  gun ,new ,.way  too long  a pull  LOP 14  3/4″-..

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 i took a lens  and looked  1826841F  late 1961. ,  i was reading  from  the photos..  it’s  a solid  gun ,new ,.way  too long  a pull  LOP 14  3/4″-..

  

You are using a bad reference source for the DOM.  S/N 1826841F was actually manufactured in October 1958.  The Model 12 Featherweight shotguns were discontinued in early 1959.

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Wow – this thread really highlights how I am not a shotgun guy.  I had no idea there was a solid frame version of the M12.  I’ve owned a M25 and always assumed it was simply the solid frame version of the M12.   M12 solid frame versions is a new one on me.

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Steve,

The Model 12 Featherweights were all solid frame, and were the only variant of the Model 12 manufactured as such.

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thank  you Bert  ilooked  it up on  different sites   the  1957  was  almost  right.  then  but a a 6  instead of an 8-the  second site  clearly  dated  it  in the 60’s..

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Amazing to ponder that every single Model 12 featherweight made was manufactured after I was born Embarassed

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 Interesting ,I thought the Model 12 Featherweight was a take down model.Just the barrel came off as opposed to the standard and heavy duck ,that the magazine and barrel came off together.I thought the Model 25 was the solid frame version of the Model 12.

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 Interesting ,I thought the Model 12 Featherweight was a take down model.Just the barrel came off as opposed to the standard and heavy duck ,that the magazine and barrel came off together.I thought the Model 25 was the solid frame version of the Model 12.

  

That’s what I thought also. I’m sure my buddy has pulled the barrel off his model 12 featherweight for cleaning before so maybe my interpretation of solid frame is wrong. I understood “solid frame” to mean the barrel has no take down operation by hand.

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Bert H. said

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 i took a lens  and looked  1826841F  late 1961. ,  i was reading  from  the photos..  it’s  a solid  gun ,new ,.way  too long  a pull  LOP 14  3/4″-..

  

You are using a bad reference source for the DOM.  S/N 1826841F was actually manufactured in October 1958.  The Model 12 Featherweight shotguns were discontinued in early 1959.

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I’ve got three books stating 1959–1962 for featherweight production so it just shows once again the erroneous DOM references that sellers, collectors and authors use… and still do. 

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Quick followup. After a bit of research I believe where the misconception the Featherweight was produced 1958-1962 is they were in the Winchester catalog until 1962/1963 but as Bert advised research confirms they were only made from early 1958 to early 1959. 
I’m not sure of the total number produced but read 120,000 somewhere.

The model 12 featherweight first appears in “some” of the catalogs Jan 2/1958 and some it doesn’t(super grade field) 🤷🏼‍♂️, and continues until the end of 1962. 

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Bert H. said

Ralph Fitzwater said

 i took a lens  and looked  1826841F  late 1961. ,  i was reading  from  the photos..  it’s  a solid  gun ,new ,.way  too long  a pull  LOP 14  3/4″-..

  

You are using a bad reference source for the DOM.  S/N 1826841F was actually manufactured in October 1958.  The Model 12 Featherweight shotguns were discontinued in early 1959.

Bert

  

Bert, not sure who’s doing model 12 survey but just acquired another model 12 Featherweight. Ser 1802799F. 12 gauge with modified choke and 28” bl on this one. 

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Rick C said

Bert H. said

Ralph Fitzwater said

 i took a lens  and looked  1826841F  late 1961. ,  i was reading  from  the photos..  it’s  a solid  gun ,new ,.way  too long  a pull  LOP 14  3/4″-..

You are using a bad reference source for the DOM.  S/N 1826841F was actually manufactured in October 1958.  The Model 12 Featherweight shotguns were discontinued in early 1959.

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Bert, not sure who’s doing model 12 survey but just acquired another model 12 Featherweight. Ser 1802799F. 12 gauge with modified choke and 28” bl on this one. 

I am not aware of anyone that is actively surveying the Model 12.  

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Bert do you or anyone else know if there’s a record of how many in each Featherweight choke were made below(26” imp cyl, 28” modified, 28” full, 30” full).

 

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Bert do you or anyone else know if there’s a record of how many in each Featherweight choke were made below (26” imp cyl, 28” modified, 28” full, 30” full).

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No records survived with that information. The only records that did not get burned in the furnaces at Winchester are the Polishing Room (PR) serialization records.  The PR records do show that production of the Model 12 Featherweight began at or very near serial number 1795659 (late March 1958) and ended at or near serial number 1847892 (early March 1959). Based on the PR records, approximately 52,230 Featherweights were manufactured in total.

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Bert H. said

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Bert do you or anyone else know if there’s a record of how many in each Featherweight choke were made below (26” imp cyl, 28” modified, 28” full, 30” full).

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No records survived with that information. The only records that did not get burned in the furnaces at Winchester are the Polishing Room (PR) serialization records.  The PR records do show that production of the Model 12 Featherweight began at or very near serial number 1795659 (late March 1958) and ended at or near serial number 1847892 (early March 1959). Based on the PR records, approximately 52,230 Featherweights were manufactured in total.

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Thank you for the information Bert. I have a liking for these slam fire featherweight model 12s and I really feel they were under-appreciated. The quick takedown option is nice. I have the two 30” bl and the 28” bl but the search continues for a collector grade 26”.  

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