Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Model 12 Serial Number way out of range
Avatar
Charles Adkins
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
May 15, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 15, 2022 - 11:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I picked up a Model 12 shotgun that has a serial number of 3782542 which is way off from the published serial numbers. I am curious if anyone has experience with this and might have a possible explanation. 

Model-12-Serial-Number-3782542.jpgImage Enlarger

Model-12-Serial-Number-on-receiver-and-not-on-barrel.jpgImage Enlarger
Model-12-barrel-marking-nickel-steel.jpgImage Enlarger
Model-12-28-inch-barrel-length.jpgImage Enlarger

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 13405
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
May 16, 2022 - 2:00 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Charles,

The number stamped on the receiver of that gun was not put there by Winchester.  More than likely it was stamped on the receiver (by hand) when somebody refinished it a long time ago.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Charles Adkins
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
May 15, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 16, 2022 - 2:54 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Looking at the serial number that is stamped, could any of the numbers be original and someone added a few numbers? For instance could the first three numbers (378) be original? And the two numeral 2s appear different…any ideas on that?

What would be the incentive for someone to add to an original SN or put a SN on a gun that isn’t realistic?

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 13405
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
May 17, 2022 - 12:22 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Charles,

There is no possible way to ever know for sure what happened to the original serial number… people do all kinds of strange & odd things to guns for unknown reasons.  The fact that it has a Nickel Steel barrel indicates that it is a pre-1933 production gun.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Charles Adkins
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
May 15, 2022
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
May 17, 2022 - 4:10 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Thanks so much for your help. I have a picture of my grandfather holding a Model 12 on the farm taken about 1933. The gun was lost in a fire after he passed so I’ve always wanted to have one just for sentimental reasons. 

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: Jim F in CT, win86guns, Mark Douglas, Byron Russell, DEEREHART, 450 Fuller, , Peter Brigham, Pwog, helidriver72, Buck1967, dbarale, 78ford
Guest(s) 279
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6758
Chuck: 6076
steve004: 5320
1873man: 4770
deerhunter: 2777
Big Larry: 2578
twobit: 2559
mrcvs: 2282
Maverick: 2070
Newest Members:
Ghost23
78ford
Don1960
3rdCoastRob
Chris Sandberg
Warwomanguns
ssdave
viking725
Rick70
Dennis McDougal
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15136
Posts: 136139

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10252
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation