Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Interesting Model 97 Stock Observation.
Avatar
OW1892
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 60
Member Since:
December 10, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
December 12, 2015 - 8:26 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Greetings All:

This recent observation had me scratching my head…I lined up four 97’s with the tangs in perfect alignment, and noted differences in lengths.  The first two were mfg’d ca. 1948, the third 1957, & the last ca. 1917.  All are 12 ga. with the exception of the last one (16 ga.).

The middle two measure exactly alike @ 13 1/4″ from where wood meets receiver, to where wood meets the buttplate.  The one on the left measures 12 11/16″ from the same points, & the 16 ga. on the far right measures 12 3/4″.

The buttplates are all virtually identical in every aspect except overall lengths (measurement from top to bottom; heel to toe).  There is absolutely NO indication of anything having been cut, modified, altered, etc. in ANY way, and the fit of all buttplaces are consistent.

I’m wondering if this was simply factory engineering changes, or if length-of-pull was an option…in particular on the first two which were mfg’d in the same year?  

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo83/CameraMogul/Winchester%2097%20Buttstocks/IMG_3479_zpsfn6galgn.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo83/CameraMogul/Winchester%2097%20Buttstocks/IMG_3480_zpsy9yyfkhu.jpg

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo83/CameraMogul/Winchester%2097%20Buttstocks/IMG_3481_zpstgqyx4nc.jpg

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12989
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
December 12, 2015 - 9:03 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

A different LOP was a special order option. Additionally, Winchester changed the LOP several times during the 60-year production run.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
OW1892
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 60
Member Since:
December 10, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
December 14, 2015 - 4:18 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Thanks for your expertise & prompt response Bert.  About the time I usually feel I have a good working understanding of a particular model, I suddenly realize I really don’t.  It’s truly an endless learning experience!  Laugh    

 

D. T.  

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12989
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
December 14, 2015 - 8:09 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

You are quite welcome, and it is indeed a continous learning experience.  I have an extensive survey in progress for the Model 1893/1897/97 (for a future article).  If you are interested in adding your Model 1897s to the survey, please get in touch with me.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
OW1892
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 60
Member Since:
December 10, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
December 15, 2015 - 4:30 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Tell me which info you’d like, & I’ll get it to you.

 

Thanks again,

D. T.

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12989
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
December 15, 2015 - 5:20 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
OW1892
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 60
Member Since:
December 10, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
December 17, 2015 - 2:34 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

PM sent

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: XLIV, steve004, 28 gauge, Ben, Herr 54, fzando
Guest(s) 609
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6474
Chuck: 5876
steve004: 5210
1873man: 4703
deerhunter: 2713
Big Larry: 2559
twobit: 2505
mrcvs: 2213
Maverick: 2042
Newest Members:
KrzHorse
drjjpdc
djwalsh
fzando
WASpalding
WinKorm94
Wallyg703
GunLegacy
tcwyb
spikemiller
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14817
Posts: 132608

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10055
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation