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August 26, 2025
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Hello,
I just recently inherited a few shotguns from my father in law. One from my research is a takedown brush gun, 295058, I had seen someone mention elsewhere if it were a full choke it could be less common of a shotgun. It isn’t in great shape but not horrible. He hadn’t hunted or shot at all for a long time, no telling how long it’s been since it’s been shot. Looking at cleaning it up a bit a do a little shooting with it.
Trying to get a bit more information about it.
Thanks
April 15, 2005
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Your Model 1897 was manufactured in late August 1905 per the factory records. The Model 1897 Brush Gun was standard with a 26-inch CYL bore barrel, a 4-round magazine, and a hard rubber butt plate. Does that match your gun? Can you provide clear pictures of the gun to include the factory markings on the slide bar and the barrel?
Bert
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August 26, 2025
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Thanks Bert,
Not quite, my barrel is marked FULL, it has a checkered metal butt plate. No markings on the slide bar. It is a takedown model.
April 15, 2005
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GTUDEAN said
Thanks Bert,
Not quite, my barrel is marked FULL, it has a checkered metal butt plate. No markings on the slide bar. It is a takedown model.
How long is the barrel? Standard length was 30″ for a Field grade gun, and with a steel butt plate. The slide bar should be marked as shown in the attached picture.
Pictures?
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
August 26, 2025
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It is 26 inches long. No markings on the slide bar.
April 15, 2005
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GTUDEAN said
It is 26 inches long. No markings on the slide bar.
I really need to see several pictures of the gun to determine what has transpired with it, but I suspect that it has a much later production barrel assembly that has been cut down to its current length. Do the serial numbers on both halves of the gun match? What is the exact distance from the center of the front sight bead to the muzzle face?
Bert – [email protected]
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
August 26, 2025
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Thanks Bert,
The serial numbers do match. I will email some pictures. I measured the barrel from the end to where the barrel starts in the frame.
August 26, 2025
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Photos sent.
December 25, 2016
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For future reference to properly measure shotgun barrel length.
The correct never miss way is a wooden dowel or cleaning rod placed down the bore to the closed bolt of the gun. Mark the rod or dowel at the muzzle and measure the length.
This is the proper method, it’s also the method used by the authorities to determine the actual barrel length. If a shotgun barrel in the USA measures even a fraction under 18 inches it is a short barreled shotgun and must have a tax stamp. No tax stamp means the gun is contraband.
Just ask Randy Weaver…..the above is important.
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